Interesting meeting.

Kelly Doran & Steve Simmons exchange.  Steve Simmons admits on the record in front of witnesses that he had given out the Camden numbers at a REPUBLICAN CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEETING last summer. On that point alone the contract with Lakengren should be voided.

File 3  has Katie Worthington in Commission Chambers to give a class to County officials on Open Government Law, sometimes known as Sunshine Law. These classes were a requirement of the settlement that Preble County lost a number of years ago. In an ironic twist of fate the victors in that Mandamus Action – Mary Bullen, Jane Marshall and Eric White were all present at the evening meeting that featured yet another issue involving not only the landfill but behavior that appears to violate ORC: 307.862  .  

File 8 has an extended and informative discussion on the Preble County Development Partnership. It covers the makeup of the Board and bylaws. The Preble County Chamber Executive Director and future Economic Development Director will both have nonvoting seat as they are employees.

File 9 has a discussion about what to do with GIS. Appears to be unanimity on the need but some question as to it and Tax Map being 40 hr. a week jobs.

The day closes with the evening "Information" meeting on the proposed route of leachate line that is supposed to go to Lakengren. At times heated but very revealing as to county politics and the will of the people.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 18, 2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

End 2.03 minute mark on CD – 482KB

File 2

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

2   minute mark   Jay Cottingim – would like a written response to emails and to be part of the decision making team.

7.5 minute mark on cd  

5.34 minutes – 1.27MB

File 3

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

7.5  minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash –  Good morning gang…. At this time Katie we will turn this over to you.

Katie Worthington –  Ohio Open Government Law class required because of settlement of Mandamus Action of Landfill Lease issue that was lost by the County a number of years ago. That case was brought and won by Mary Bullen, Jane Marshall and Eric White. The name of the group organized by Jane Marshall to oppose that Landfill Lease issue was called "CitizensForPrebleCounty".   All were in attendance at the evening meeting which also had Vaughn & Dawn Call from the earlier issue. Yes, that is how this website got the name.

37.5 minute mark on cd  

29.55 minutes – 6.85 MB

File 4

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

1hr.  7.5 minute mark on cd  

30.00 minutes – 6.86 MB

File 5

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

1hr.  19 minute mark on cd  

11.30 minutes – 2.63 MB

File 6

Audio from 1 hr.19 minute mark to 1hr. 31.75 not included (office noise with no meeting)

1hr.  33 minute mark     BACK IN SESSION

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION AND NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 16TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

1hr.  33.7 minute mark     

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #436-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – SHERIFF ($507.00); TASC ($152.58); SPECIAL PROJECTSCT. TRAINING ($450.00); JFS ($3,225.00); WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ($13,659.98); EMA ($151.44)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #437-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

1hr.  37.5 minute mark on cd  

5.45 minutes – 1.31 MB

File 7

VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE

RE: MONTHLY JAIL REPORT – JULY 2010

Male admissions 113

Female admissions 14

Average daily count 42

1hr.  38.5 minute mark     IX. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #438-10-146 – SEAN MAGGARD – GIS  Cost not to exceed $655.84

B. RES. #439-10-146 – CHARLIE BIGGS & DAVID ANDERSON – EMA  Cost not to exceed $332

C. RES. #440-10-146 – COMMISSIONERS STONECASH, DAY & WESLER – COMMISSION   Cost not to exceed $ NO COST TO COUNTY

1hr.  40.5 minute mark     Probationary rate adjustment for John Jones Sanitary Facility Manager at Landfill. Hourly rate $25.75

1hr.  42 minute mark on cd  

4.355 minutes – 1.04 MB

File 8

Commissioner Bob Stonecash – Ok Connie do you have anything else for us?

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

No action taken

1hr.  47 minute mark     County Health Insurance discussion.

1hr.  49.6 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – I talked with Josh briefly last week when we were at that conference and um he said it might be good if we had someone from CCAO – maybe him to give a presentation on the web turbines…. interest in southern Darke and northern Preble.

Discussion on wind turbines in the county and interest expressed by main stream company for 2000 kw wind farm.

1hr.  54.25 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash – Preble County Development Partnership.

Bylaws discussion.

Permanent seats went from 12 to 11.

Trustee & Board removal after two consecutive meetings. Good idea  

1hr.  58 minute mark     Only four meetings scheduled a year. I'd like to see every other month. Is this a resume padding seat or an involvement effort?

1hr.  58.5 minute mark     Chamber Executive Director  involvement to be as a nonvoting membership.

1hr.  59 minute mark     County Commissioners need to appoint someone by next meeting.

Commissioner Wesler recommends sitting President and acting County Administrator. Economic Development Director to also be on board as nonvoting member.   I agree neither should have a vote if the other does not.

2 hr.  2 minute mark     Five companies have committed to the $15,000, three others at the $2,500 level who would receive consideration for a Board seat. DP&L, Vectren and Cornerstone mentioned.

Municipalities can participate at $2.75 per population number.

2 hr.  3 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – … our contribution is just an Economic Development person and an office which will be somewhere around a hundred is that correct?  You guys agree with that? So there is our contribution. Eaton is participating at $2.75 per citizen. I think that you indicated that West Alexandria is going to participate at $2.75 a person. Lewisburg probably.

Commissioner Chris Day – they've committed

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – They've committed. The other villages I don't see being able to participate Camden could but after the leachate issue why would they?    Possibly and then they are talking about townships. So let's say Twin, let's just pick Twin comes in at $2.75 per person. Does our $2.75 per county resident cover West Alexandria, Eaton, Twin Township, Lewisburg or is this does this double it up? And maybe I've  Good question

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Commissioner Chris Day – You mean getting hit twice across the board?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – That's right. We're hitting $5.50 when

Commissioner Chris Day –  You are

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – and maybe that is ok with everybody, it's great that there is that much more money but ahh.

Commissioner Wesler – Well once again, this is voluntary. They volunteer to donate that much, nobody is mandating they that.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – That's correct, but I think it is worthy of note.

Commissioner Chris Day – Well we've had this discussion

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – I thought we had and

2 hr.  5 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day – and we I believe was stated the county, we the county was taking the lead with the position of Economic Development Director in our role with the Partnership. You know that is our contribution. The City of Eaton

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – Which we would do no matter what.

Commissioner Chris Day –  The City of Eaton has agreed to step to the plate and get on board. Now it is up to as David said it is a voluntary thing if the other communities. Now, I can speak for West Alexandria alone and my body thought it was a very good investment.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – Good. Well that's the thing that, I mean we don't want to be joining if they don't think it is a good investment.

Commissioner Chris Day –  In our discussion last night as was brought up in these by-laws. Were the townships asked to give $2.75 and there was discussion that they were and weren't .

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – That is correct.

Commissioner Chris Day –  Matt sent me an email, I looked at it and he called me as I was walking in here. Originally it was presented $2.75 across the board

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – to the townships across the board right gottcha

Commissioner Chris Day – That's Eaton, municipalities and townships. Well their going now and this and Matt clarified this for me they are going to approach the townships and starting out at a quarter and seeing if they can just get buy in. But initially, it was sold and promoted at the $2.75 because they. The only reason I am clarifying that is there have been a few of these things that they have wavered back and forth on. And I know at the presentation when they came to Village they specifically said $2.75 so I don't want to have to go back and look like I've got egg on my face. So that was clarified. Now, I did attend the Mayors meeting after I left … anyhow the Mayor's meeting ahhm I believe it was Eldorado is that Tiana?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – Tiana is Eldorado.

Commissioner Chris Day – I believe they are the one they are not going to be able to go with $2.75 but I think they have committed to like $600 a year. And I think one of the other ones was going to do something similar. They did pick a representative, Randy Kemper (Gratis) the Mayor's representative. As far as the townships go, you know some of the seats the Mayor's have a representative, the townships have a representative, the school Superintendents have a representative, so they are represented. The issue on the horizon is how many Board members actually reside in Preble County and face the consequences of the actions taken?   Ahh so does that answer your question?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –  Ahh yeah I just and that is fair for the townships. Ahh let's see, you got anything else you want to know about that?

Commissioner Wesler –  laughing

Commissioner Chris Day – Hopefully hopefully the by-laws will be approved

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –  next meeting

Commissioner Chris Day – no a week from Tuesday.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –  Yeah -next meeting

Commissioner Chris Day –  Oh I thought you said next week I am sorry.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – No

Commissioner Chris Day –  So hopefully because no one commented back and then we got everyone commenting at the meeting so my request was if you have a comment get them back to Dave so we can get them corrected.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –  The changes are very minor

Commissioner Chris Day – I understand but they could have got this stuff ahead of time

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – Yes, yeah Mike could have. garbled

Commissioner Chris Day –  Hopefully we get that taken care of and moving forward.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –  Do you have anything that we need to know about the library meeting the law library meeting?

2 hr.  9.4 minute mark on cd  

27.23 minutes – 6.26 MB

File 9

2 hr.  11 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – Jennifer Brunner will be down at the Board of Elections today at 2:30 if you want to stop in.

Commissioner Chris Day –  She voting?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – She is looking for votes evidently.

Commissioner Chris Day – I thought maybe she was coming into vote in this county.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – She's messed it up pretty good so…oops

2 hr.  11 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day – brings up GIS EXTENDED GIS DISCUSSION

What do we want to do with it?

2 hr.  14 minute mark     Tax map question. Question on paying for people of REA being legal.

2 hr.  16  minute mark     Dave Wesler brings up solution from a couple years ago.

Commissioners have been notified unofficially that the Auditor will not handle it next year.

2 hr.  17.2 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  –

2 hr.  17.2 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – REA has $467,000 in it right now and it has always hovered around a half a million.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – So what you are saying is that she can afford it.

2 hr.  19 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – We need to know the budget for GIS and map….

2 hr.  21 minute mark     Question on if these are 40 hr. a week jobs or if GIS can be combined with Tax Map.

2 hr.  23.5 minute mark     Commissioner David Wesler – If you just do the updates it is my opinion that it is probably not a full time job.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – I agree. And then I have that question, can we do anything about that if we create a new, I won't go there right now.

2 hr.  28 minute mark     Question on who should pay for it and relationship to cuts in other department budgets.

Commissioner Chris Day – brings up what West Alexandria is doing with GIS

Commissioner David Wesler –  asks who did the work for West Alex and Commissioner Day answers Sean Maggard did some of it.

2 hr.  30.75 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  – on fear spreading from upstairs and what they will face tonight.

RECESS UNTIL EVENING MEETING

2 hr.  31.75 minute mark on cd  

22.32 minutes – 5.15 MB

File 10

6:30 P.M. – LANDFILL LEACHATE INFORMATIONAL MEETING

Opening comments by Commissioner Bob Stonecash

Transcript of this meeting .pdf file

2 hr.  34.6 minute mark on cd  

2.46 minutes – 651KB

File 11

This is a long meeting and it will be broken down into roughly 20 minute segments for downloading or listening. Please download the transcript as I will not be reviewing it until page 25.

2 hr.  55 minute mark on cd  

20.21 minutes – 4.66 MB

File 12

3 hr.  15 minute mark on cd  

20.03 minutes – 4.59 MB

File 13

3 hr.  35 minute mark on cd  

20.00 minutes – 4.58MB

File 14

3 hr.  55 minute mark on cd  

20.01 minutes – 6.26 MB

File 15

4 hr.  15.3 minute mark on cd  

20.18 minutes – 4.64 MB

File 15A

Kelly Doran & Steve Simmons exchange.  Steve Simmons admits on the record in front of witnesses that he had given out the Camden numbers at a REPUBLICAN CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEETING last summer. On that point alone the contract with Lakengren should be voided.