File 3 has the Commissioners reviewing a copy of the last contract with the FOP. Commissioner Day put the start of the process for the next contract as starting in March.
File 4 has the Preble County Budget Commission meeting and Auditor Mindy Robbins giving a review of 2010. As of January 14, 2011, the county had a cash balance of $2,193,949.82. For comparison, last year on January 22, 2010, the county had a cash balance of $1,230,530.29.
File 5 has a meeting with CoGeneration Consultants on the gas to energy project under consideration. This issue goes back to last year and was covered at the June 9, 2010 meeting. This issue was at least partially triggered by a test for NMOC (non methane organic compounds). The test used showed the Preble County Landfill surpassed the 50 mega gram level and kicked the landfill into Title 5. It had been hoped that the test would show the landfill under the 50 mega gram level. The option of an additional test would have cost $80,000 and with the additional cost of a Malcom Pirnie fee, was expected to top $100,000.
File 8 has an interesting conversation on the CIC and offers a history related to that group. The discussion carries over to the issue to aid for small businesses. The view I took from the discussion was that this was an area the Preble Chamber should handle but as expressed here, they are apparently reluctant to do so. I’ll agree with the Commissioners that usually the aid and support of small business is the express purpose of a local Chamber of Commerce. A definition for Chamber of Commerce is: an association, primarily of people in business, to promote the commercial interests of an area. Commissioner Chris Day stated: “You know probably 95% of their members are small business.” That figure is not reflected in the actual membership of the Preble Chamber which shows over 40 members affiliated with government, nonprofits and education. The percentage of the Board of Directors listed on the Chamber website for 2010 that is not “business” related far exceeds the 5% claim of Mr. Day’s.
A Chamber Board so heavily weighted by non business interests such as is the case with the Preble Chamber Board will often not accurately reflect the needs of business. While this Chamber was instrumental in the creation of the Preble County Development Partnership, its employees should not be allowed the perception of control of the Development Partnership. There are other Chambers in this county and to continue the perception of preferential treatment to one Chamber over the others is just wrong and cannot help but lead to distrust and friction. It was less than a year ago that the Preble Chamber was asked by a member to take a stand against a sales tax increase that would put it at a disadvantage to its competition. Here is the emailed response from a senior Preble Chamber employee: “There was just no consensus among Board members about the tax issue to reach a position. Consequently, the Board decided to take no position.”
That comment is the basis for my distrust of focus and intent at the Preble Chamber and as a result I agree with Commissioner Stonecash and Commissioner Day’s comments of August 4, 2010:
Commissioner Stonecash – And the Chamber Board needs to be reorganized.
Commissioner Day – Yes
Commissioner Stonecash – They have too many Social people and not enough Business people. At this time I would make a motion to ADJOURN.
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File 11 has a lengthy discussion on the ED (Economic Development) department, interaction with the Preble County Development Partnership, perceptions, directions and more. It has been mostly transcribed to the best of my ability for the usual audio reasons. This File and File 8 should be considered for review together and should prove enlightening to those interested in the topic.
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Preble County, Ohio
County Commissioners
January 19, 2011
Meeting audio and review
Three Commissioners in attendance
I. OPEN MEETING
II. CALL OF ROLL
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IV. PRAYER – Meeting opens with Commissioner Stonecash finishing prayer.
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 12TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING
VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS – no citizens in attendance
2.25 Minute mark VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS
A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. # 57-11-148
RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS FUNDS
B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. # 72-11-148
RE: AUTH. PAYMENTS – FCFC ($4,594.56); FY09 CDBG CHIP ($4,200.00)
C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #74-11-148
RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $9,505.00 FOR THE PURCHASE & INSTALLATION OF A NEW COMPUTER SERVER AND SERVER RACKS – ENGINEER Received quotes from Eaton Computer, HP & IBM.
End 4.52 minute mark on CD – 1.11 MB
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS
A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #73-11-148
RE: PROCLAMATION HONORING MARTY BRESHER ON HER RETIREMENT – Proclamation read into record. Worked with 23 County Commissioners.
8 Minute mark Commissioner Wesler chosen to serve on the CCAO Board, he was a Presidential selection. First meeting January 21, 2011.
B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A HELP WANTED AD
RE: WASTE MANAGEMENT/ RECYCLING CLERK/ EDUCATION SPECIALIST – RECYCLING 30 hour position.
C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A HELP WANTED AD
RE: INTERMITTENT ACCOUNT CLERK II – LANDFILL
D. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN ANSWER FILED IN COMMON PLEAS COURT
RE: ANSWER OF DEFENDANT, PREBLE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS – PAUL WAGNER VS. GREG PARSLEY ET AL (FORECLOSURE SUIT)
E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS & BID FORM
RE: 2011 CRACK SEAL PROGRAM – ENGINEER – To be opened February 16 at 11:00 a.m..
11.25 Minute mark IX. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS
A. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: COMPUTER SYSTEM MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT W/ EATON COMPUTER – $24,000.00 – SHERIFF
B. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT
RE: RECORDING SECRETARY & STENOGRAPHER FOR PREBLE CO. ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSIONS – $3,600.00- RURAL ZONING
C. NOTE RECEIPT AND CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: ASSISTANCE IN 2011 SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN PREPARATION AGREEMENT W/ GT ENVIRONMENTAL INC – $19,500.00 – RECYCLING
D. NOTE RECEIPT AND CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: PREPARATION OF 2010 ANNUAL DISTRICT REPORT AGREEMENT W/ GT ENVIRONMENTAL INC. – $6,500.00 – RECYCLING
E. NOTE RECEIPT AND CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: HEARING TESTS & TRAINING AGREEMENT W/ INDUSTRIAL HEALTH TEST – $850.00 – ENGINEER
F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: TYPEWRITER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT W/ CAL-VENT MAINTENANCE SERVICE – $2,024.00 – VARIOUS DEPTS.
G. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: GENERAL SURVEYING SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ STEPHEN A. POPE & ASSOCIATES – $2,500.00 – LANDFILL
15 Minute mark X. TRAVEL
NOTE RECEIPT AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:
The Commission requests reflect totals for entire year of travel expenses to meetings of: Dayton Development Coalition, Miami Valley Regional Planning and other County Commission meetings throughout the state.
A. RES. # 58-11-148 – COMMISSIONER CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
B. RES. # 59-11-148 – COMMISSIONER CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
C. RES. # 60-11-148 – COMMISSIONER CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
D. RES. # 61-11-148 – COMMISSIONER BOB STONECASH – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
E. RES. # 62.11-148 – COMMISSIONER BOB STONECASH – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
F. RES. # 63-11-148 – COMMISSIONER BOB STONECASH – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
G. RES. # 64-11-148 – COMMISSIONER DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
H. RES. # 65-11-148 – COMMISSIONER DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
I. RES. # 66-11-148 – COMMISSIONER DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
J. RES. # 67-11-148 – COMMISSIONER DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
K. RES. # 68-11-148 – COMMISSIONER DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
L. RES. # 69-11-148 – COMMISSIONER BOB STONECASH – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
M. RES. # 70-11-148 – COMMISSIONER CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $150
N. RES. # 71-11-148 – COMMISSIONERS WESLER, STONECASH & DAY – COMMISSION Cost not to exceed $ no cost to the county
O. RES. #75-11-148 – JOE BETSCHER & AUDRA GRAY – JUVENILE CT. Cost not to exceed $392
22.1 minute mark on cd
17.11 minutes – 3.93 MB
Commissioner Wesler – Do you have anything else at this time Connie?
Connie – This a copy of the agreement during our last contract era with the FOP. FYI
Commissioner Stonecash – When do the negotiations begin?
Connie – That contract is good what through June?
Commissioner Wesler – Yeah
Connie – I bet it should happen a couple months before. If not sooner.
Commissioner Day – I assume we will start looking at that about March?
Connie – That is what I was thinking.
23.75 Minute mark EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS -Compensation of a public employee.
Exit – no action taken.
Commissioner Wesler – Connie, will you prepare a letter about the additional duties that were under the audit and that she will bill moving from an account clerk 2 to a 3 with appropriate adjustment.
Connie – That is for, I don't think you mentioned.
Commissioner Wesler – Kim McQuire.
26.5 Minute mark Mention of Chamber Awards
Mike Zimmerman of RH in audience.
27.5 Minute mark Someone's phone vibrates.
Possibility of Shawda Combs being in renovated offices across the street by end of next week.
Commissioner Stonecash – I am sure the Partnership was looking forward to that. They are all nervous about us.
Commissioner Wesler – They are?
Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah, which I don't know why. ok that made me chuckle
Commissioner Day – Who all is nervous about it?
28 Minute mark Commissioner Stonecash – Oh you name-em I gonna. I'll wait until we get in the hallway.
Commissioner Day – chuckles
Commissioner Stonecash – They think we are micro-managing.
28.26 minute mark on cd
6.17 minutes – 1.43MB
AUDIO FROM 28.6 – 51.5 NOT INCLUDED – BETWEEN MEETING BACKGROUND NOISE.
10:00 A.M. – PREBLE COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION MEETING
Mindy Robbins & Brenda White come in room.
53.5 Minute mark Meeting starts. Mindy Robbins Preble County Auditor offers 2010 review.
57.75 Minute mark Conveyance fee raised in September 2009 totaled $100,199.60 (not clear on if this was just the 2010 total or cumulative total)
Real estate – 2.84% greater than in 2009 or roughly $61,759+ : local was about $44,000 the rest was additional state reimbursements.
1 hr. Minute mark 2011 estimate of revenue $8,882,928
2010 Expenditures decreased by a little over 2%.
1 hr. 3.75 Minute mark Cash balance as of January 14, 2011 – $2,193,949.82
For comparison:
Cash Balance for General Fund as January 22, 2010 – $1,230,530.29
1 hr. 4.75 Minute mark Connie requests a copy.
1 hr. 7 minute mark on cd
16.34 minutes – 3.79 MB
1 hr. 8 Minute mark Commissioner Wesler – To Joyce Black payroll clerk: Please be advised that as of January 27, 2011, Ms. Kim Clark has been promoted from an account clerk 2 to an account clerk 3 whose grade of pay….. increase to $11.88 per hour.
1 hr. 12.5 Minute mark John Jones comes into room.
1 hr. 23.75 Minute mark Commissioner Wesler – …today we got Mark Kowalski and Allan Croll of CoGENERATION CONSULTANTS
10:30 A.M. – CoGENERATION CONSULTANTS (GAS TO ENERGY PROJECT)
1 hr. 24.5 Minute mark Meeting starts with PowerPoint presentation.
Methane – 20x more powerful at trapping heat than Carbon dioxide
1 hr. 26.75 Minute mark Cell phone heard vibrating.
1 hr. 29 Minute mark review of methane being released from wells at landfill. Some wells not producing, expectation that wells need repaired.
1 hr. 30 Minute mark Expectation that by 2050 landfill would produce 1.6 megawatts of power. Could be more.
RECESS UNTIL 1:38
2 hr. 31.8 minute mark on cd
1 hr. 24.52 minutes – 19.4 MB
2 hr. 33 Minute mark Engineer awards aggregate bids to all bidders and will use closest vendor to area of need.
RFA SCORING REVIEW FOR CHIP ADMINISTRATION
2 hr. 35 Minute mark HIT & CAP
Extended discussions on benefits and issues of both.
2 hr. 55.75 Minute mark Kim Keller – It looks like the Foundation came out on top.
2 hr. 56.3 minute mark on cd
24.31 minutes – 5.61 MB
Connie – JFS has been invited, Common Pleas Court, Juvenile Court, Clerk of Courts, Prosecutor's and the Sheriff all have been invited to this meeting. (MAXIMUS (IV-D SERVICES) )
Connie – HIT has applied for a permit on a duplex in Gratis. Only project they plan to do this year. Would like to waive $100 contractor fee as this is a not for profit house. Heatings are doing heating, air and electric.
2 hr. 59 Minute mark Commissioner Stonecash – It still requires the time of our staff.
3 hr. 1 Minute mark Commissioner Day asks about plumbing and electric certification.
Short discussion on if HIT is using it as a for profit rental or possibility of it being used as one in the future.
3 hr. 4.25 Minute mark Commissioner Day – So in previous experience; Dave have you waived anything like this?
Commissioner Wesler – We've waived something but ahh
Commissioner Day – the issues I have with it is that whatever we do here sets precedent in the future.
Kim Keller – wondering if Habitat for Humanity has ever
Commissioner Stonecash – How does this affect NIC?
Commissioner Day – I think that is something we have to ask them; What are the legalities if we start waiving fee?
Kim Keller – She is just asking about waiving the Registration fee not any of the other fees.
Commissioner Wesler – …we set it up to protect the end users to make sure that they have gone through the proper criteria to be given the credentials. So
Kim Keller – It doesn't sound like they have a problem with doing it if they already buy the insurance papers and stuff that they need.
3 hr. 10.5 Minute mark Discussion on previous night's Fairground meeting with Dr. Wright of OSU Extension and who went.
Commissioner Stonecash – I forgot about it.
Commissioner Wesler – I heard the Ag Society will be asked to take on more of the junior fair…way it should have been done years ago.
3 hr. 13.5 minute mark on cd
17.07 minutes – 4.91 MB
3 hr. 13.75 Minute mark Commissioner Stonecash – …The CIC is having a meeting coming up and we were reviewing the by-laws. Joe Ferriell, myself and Dave Kirsch. The number of times it meets a year is an issue… could go back to once a year or as needed by the Committee.
Commissioner Day – …why would that organization meet just to meet?
3 hr. 14.75 Minute mark Commissioner Stonecash – ahh Charlie wanted needed something to do I think. ….
Commissioner Day – How many members are there of the CIC?
Commissioner Stonecash – Oh there area at least there is almost well there is a half a dozen people show up. There used to be a bunch.
….membership was $25 for individuals and $100 for companies. We decided to make it $25 across the board.
Commissioner Wesler on the CIC and the money they have. Back when they had Randy Cole and they started the OGDC he was getting paid….
3 hr. 17 Minute mark … David explains history of OGDC…. Randy Cole and issue with both groups doing economic development. CIC dropped Randy. In the interim there the CIC was in a struggle with the OGDC. They were trying to find where the empty buildings are stuff like that. They could have been working in conjunction but there was a little power struggle there. I remember calling up the gentleman from Shelby County who it was modeled after and he was not only the Director of the CIC but also the Western Ohio Economic Development group. He said; Our CIC meets once a year for a big Christmas party and he said other than that we support economic development the best we can and if we need to meet for a land transfer we will have a special meeting. He said that is all their duties do.
Commissioner Stonecash – well and that is the basic and another part of the duties is just that land transfer. Shawnda kind of wanted to include small business. To help n that which she has asked the Chamber to do.
Commissioner Day – I was going to say
Commissioner Stonecash – The Chamber has been reluctant from what I understand.
Commissioner Day – You need to define who, who is going to handle the small business
Commissioner Stonecash – It should be the Chamber.
Commissioner Day – It is a tennis ball right now.
Commissioner Stonecash – If you get down and define it real good the Chamber is small business. That is what their function in life is. Where is right now they are wanting to function on a big scale. And just like what you said I think it is a matter of everybody learning where they fit.
Bob, I agree, that is the way it should be but there is no indication that the Preble Chamber reflects that. If anything, it is just the opposite.
Commissioner Day – The bulk of the membership is small business. I mean we only got a couple businesses that are border line big business. You know big business for Preble County but. You know so probably 95% of their members are small business. No, the percentage of membership that is actual business is lower. This organization's leadership is disproportionately weighted to government and non profit, not business. The list below shows over 40 members are listed as affiliated with Government, nonprofit and education.
From the Preble Chamber website:
Board of Directors – 2010
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Board of Directors 2010 |
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Kristi Marcum-Chairperson
Since 2009 Expires 2010 |
Brad Neavin – Chair-Elect Since 2007 Expires 2012 |
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Kevin Turner |
Kim Eck – Logistics Supervisor Since 2010 Expires 2011 |
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Open
Expires 2010 |
Charlie Pennington |
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Ray Potter Since 2008 Expires 2011 |
Edmund H. Kalil Since 2010 Expires 2012 |
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Rose Roberts – Assistant Vice-President Since 2010 Expires 2011 |
Joanne Beineke – General Manager |
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Leslie Collins |
Shawn Murphy Since 2010 Expires 2011 |
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Chamber Staff and Volunteers |
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Chamber Staff
Matt Appenzeller, Executive Director
Virginia Lindsey, Secretary |
Members-At-Large
Dan Appenzeller |
Government
City of Eaton P.O. Box 27 Eaton 937-456-4125
Lakengren Water Authority 209 Lakengren Dr. Eaton 937-456-4455
Mental Health & Recovery Board of Preble County 225 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-6827
Ohio Rehabilitation Services One Elizabeth Place Ste.10 Dayton 937-331-5041
Preble County Common Pleas Judge Court House, 2nd Floor Eaton 937-456-8136
Preble County Engineer 1000 Preble Dr. Eaton 937-456-4600
Preble County General Health Dist. 615 Hillcrest Dr. Eaton 937-472-0087
Preble County Job & Family Services 1500 Park Ave. Eaton 937-456-6205
Preble County Veterans Service 108 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-6111
Preble Soil & Water Conservation District 1651 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-5159
Village of West Alexandria 16 N. Main Street West Alexandria 937-839-4151
Education
Eaton Community Schools 307 N. Cherry St. Eaton 937-456-1107
Indiana University East 2325 Chester Blvd. Richmond 765-973-8419
Miami University Middletown 597 Hillcrest Dr. Eaton 937-456-4624
Miami Valley Career Technology Center 6800 Hoke Rd. Clayton 937-854-6089
Preble County District Library 450 S. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-4250
Preble County Educational Service Center 597 Hillcrest Dr. Eaton 937-456-1187×135
Sinclair Community College 450 Washington-Jackson Road Eaton 937-456-5252
Twin Valley Community Local School District 100 Education Dr. West Alexandria 937-839-
Non-Profit
American Cancer Society P.O. Box 203 Eaton 937-456-5511
American Red Cross 1751 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-5494
Champaign Residential Services 405 Public Square, Suite 373 Troy 937-335-6974
Eaton Church of the Brethren 1407 N. Barron Street Eaton 937-456-5507
Fraternal Order of Eagles No. 2202 225 E. Main St. Eaton 937-456-4977
Heaven's Corner for Endangered Animals Zoo 385 Quinn Road West Alexandria 937-839-5005
Home Is The Foundation 1751 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-472-0500
L & M Products, Inc. 201 E. Lexington Rd. Eaton 937-456-7141
Lakengren Property Owner's, Inc. 210 Norwegian Dr. Eaton 937-456-3173
Malachi 1221 First Ave., Ste. E Middletown 513-420-4618
Preble County Agricultural Society 722 S. Franklin St. Eaton 937-456-3748
Preble County Board of MRDD 201 E. Lexington Rd. Eaton 937-456-5891
Preble County Council on Aging, Inc. 800 E. St. Clair St. Eaton 937-456-4947
Preble County Historical Society 7693 Swartsel Rd. Eaton 937-787-4256
Preble County Pork Festival 4119 Whitewater-Eldorado Rd. Eldorado 937-273-2345
Preble County YMCA 450 Washington-JacksonRd. Eaton 937-472-2010
Preble County Youth Foundation P.O. Box 172 Eaton 937-472-0089
Preble Promise, Inc. 673 Skodborg Drive Eaton 937-212-4732
State of the Heart Hospice 1350 N. Broadway Greenville 937-548-2999
Three Valley Conservation Trust 5920 Morning Sun Rd. Oxford 513-524-2150
United Way of Greater Dayton Area 1751 N. Barron St. Eaton 937-456-7174
Parks
Preble County Park District 101 E. Main St. Eaton 937-962-5561
Last few minutes are pre meeting chatter for next meeting.
3 hr. 27.25 minute mark on cd
16.34 minutes – 3.79 MB
MAXIMUS (IV-D SERVICES)
3 hr. 38 Minute mark Connie – gives name of those in attendance.
4 hr. 25.75 minute mark on cd
58.3 minutes – 13.3 MB
MARTY VOTEL (LEACHATE LAWSUIT)
Commissioner Chris Day – moves to go into EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PENDING LITIGATION.
4 hr. 27.5 Minute mark Le Paul fuel station discussion. More monitoring wells to be drilled but a possibility that by the end of June the EPA could give the site an NFA (No Further Action).
4 hr. 28.5 Minute mark Commissioner questions for Cindy on HIT request to waive fee.
4 hr. 37 Minute mark Commissioner Stonecash makes motion that they do not waive fee.
Commissioner Chris Day – seconds motion
Passes 3 – 0.
4 hr. 38.75 minute mark on cd
13 minutes – 2.96 MB
Commissioner Chris Day – moves to adjourn.
Commissioner Stonecash – I just want to ask you
Commissioner Chris Day – no
Commissioner Stonecash – a question. At what point do we like to talk about our ED department? We have never discussed what we, what direction we want to go. And it almost 120 days that we have had that. The whirlwind of activity, she is doing a tremendous job and we have stepped back from the Partnership and let things fall as it may. All though there is a belief that we have been micro managing, this is not true. I think it is important that we state our position as to where we want it to go. Because there is talk about a strategic plan, I think it has a strategic plan and all that needs to be discussed with the proper people. So that it is working and we are all on the same page and when I say all, I mean the entire Partnership. So either tonight or Monday I think it is important that we talk about it amongst us. Then we can share that view with our ED Director and then the Partnership. I really wanted to do that the last time she was in and she had a long report. So, I think it is important that at some point we meet with the Executive Board and talk about things.
4 hr. 41 Minute mark Because I think there is a big misunderstanding. I step back and you step back and you back and kind of let things ???
Commissioner Wesler – and I understand what you are saying I mean I kind of thought Shawnda knew which what our direction was when we hired her. Because that was part of the her job duties was the job creation to help all parts of the county.
Commissioner Stonecash – I think we expressed that.
Commissioner Wesler – Ok
Commissioner Stonecash – that's just my opinion, I think she trying I think she ???? trying to do everything.
Commissioner Day – I think that
Commissioner Stonecash – She is doing a heck of a job.
Commissioner Day – I think she is doing a good job. I think we need to and I started making some note we just need to sit down and make some notes of areas of that we see that need to back off or need more attention. Ahhm areas of concern that we feel, have a discussion with her of anything that we have seen that we like or don't like. Just let her know what the landscape is and then get the feedback from her where she wants to go. Kind of funnel her efforts, she is doing a lot of different things ahhm in my opinion she may be doing to many functions at once. Ahhm I understand she is trying to hit the ground running but ahh ahhm sometimes when you do that you lose things along the way.
Commissioner Stonecash – She is running.
Commissioner Wesler – The thing we talked about the other day ahh the County's contribution. I know that ahh Connie asked you for that the other day. Do you have that cause I know we wrote it down.
Commissioner Stonecash – I'll go through my papers. I was going to do that and I haven't done it. I did have it in a folder I think in my car.
Commissioner Wesler – Because that Executive ahh meeting that I went to yesterday meeting I went too yesterday they asked me if we had that and I said yes we talked about that the other day but I would try to locate that.
Commissioner Day – Do you need the dollar amount is that what you are looking for?
Commissioner Stonecash – The form that were asked to sign stating our contribution five years and my objection was to at the bottom it says the money is to be administered by the Chamber of Commerce. That would be my objection.
Commissioner Day – And I don't think that should be on there because this is too managed by the Partnership, the Development Partnership.
Commissioner Stonecash – They should do the managing period.
Commissioner Day – That is, there the Chamber hasn't. The only thing the Chamber would have anything to do with the budget is any dollars that were allocated to the Chamber for whatever functions they were to perform.
Commissioner Stonecash – It was my understanding and you correct me if I am wrong. That budget was run past the Chamber Board before it ever hit ??
Commissioner Wesler – Not that I know of
Commissioner Stonecash – Ok that is what Matt told Shawnda or what Shawnda told me that Matt told her.
Commissioner Day – I asked that question to two different people and the Chamber has not seen the budget.
Commissioner Stonecash – Good ok.
Commissioner Day – ahhm
Commissioner Stonecash – That is one of those misunderstanding then that needs to be cleared up.
Commissioner Day – Yeah that ahh you need that contribution and if not I am sure we can get another form
Commissioner Stonecash – probably get it for Monday.
Commissioner Day – well that actually you need to go back that needs to be removed off of that form and the form sent out and
Commissioner Stonecash – And all of the money we spent this year isn't going to be next year either. I thought about that
Connie – Right and I think I typed on the top of that form what our in-kind was. You know
Commissioner Stonecash – I think I got it. I think I got it in my car.
Commissioner Day – You talking about how much money actual cash vs. how much
Connie – How much we have actually spent on salaries, furniture, whatever we computer
Commissioner Stonecash – We had we put everything down
Connie – Yeah the use of the car, the rental space I think we discussed all of that
Commissioner Day – Right
Connie – and it is all on that form
Commissioner Wesler – We put a dollar amount over here for the rent.
Connie – Yeah we did.
Commissioner Day – It is hard to believe that is worth $70,000 a month.
Connie – huh (chuckling) Did you want me to schedule a time for that discussion? Is that what you are asking for?
Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah
Connie – us and then
Commissioner Stonecash – amongst the four of us to begin with.
Connie – then further on
Commissioner Stonecash – the three of us. At the end of that discussion we have her in or the next meeting have her in or whatever.
Commissioner Day – I think we need to sit down and handle this discussion amongst us, of what we see
Commissioner Stonecash – Correct
Commissioner Day – and then we can have her in if she is available or we can bring her in after that or whatever. I think we need to get on the same page.
Commissioner Stonecash – and we need an hour to do it I think.
Connie – Yeah right
Commissioner Stonecash – half an hour is not enough.
Connie – Ok
Commissioner Wesler – Well I am not sure who you say thinks we micromanage but I am going to tell you
Commissioner Stonecash – ??? private sector
Commissioner Wesler – I've not I've not been in there. You know, I've not been in there. You know I've seen her going to these Chamber of Commerce meetings and she is going to New Paris this next week. I know she is trying to get around o some townships and village meetings.
Commissioner Stonecash – Oh she is going to the New Paris Chamber or New Paris Council?
Commissioner Wesler – she's got it down.
Commissioner Day – she was at my, not my full body but she met with West Alex Council members yesterday afternoon.
Commissioner Stonecash – It wouldn't hurt us to attend some of those with her since we already figure on doing that anyway.
Commissioner Day – I did attend that one. (West Alex)
Commissioner Stonecash – Did you (chucking) thanks for going out of your way to do that.
Commissioner Day – ???
Connie – Well someone is mislead because there is absolutely no no micromanaging being done.
Commissioner Day – I have not heard
Connie – That department
Commissioner Stonecash – There is a perception or a get it from her, there is a perception.
Connie – well I don't know where that would be coming from
Commissioner Stonecash – and I get it from a couple other sources. And it just something to talk about, let's lay stuff on the table now. It's been 120 days and in that time we asked for a budget. It isn't done yet. I understand the process but 90 days ago we asked for a budget.
Commissioner Day – Well the ahh
Commissioner Wesler – You talking from who?
Commissioner Stonecash – From the Partnership. Our budget is taken care of.
Commissioner Wesler – Yeah
Commissioner Day – No we asked the ahh there should have been a technically there should have been a budget before the first of the year. And then when the Executive Board of that Partnership steps up to the plate and starts steering the entire group down the right path ahhm
Commissioner Stonecash – Technically there might even be an election of officers
Commissioner Day – There hasn't been?
Commissioner Stonecash – Well there was originally but that was last year. The bylaws read that it is to be done in January every year. I'm not pushing that
Commissioner Day – That should be done. Well all though
Commissioner Stonecash – It may need to be done.
Commissioner Day – All though I think we stated prior to the adoption of the current bylaws that the officers elected would serve the remainder of last year and this entire year so that there would be some continuity.
Commissioner Stonecash – Well and that's an excellent idea.
Commissioner Day – And I am sure that we did state that and that was brought up that the suggestion was just for proper procedure just need to reaffirm the current slate of officers for 2011 as a formality.
Commissioner Stonecash – Everybody knows the bylaws haven't been successfully followed so far. I mean the last meeting was much better.
Commissioner Day – But the budget need to be adopted. I mean there needs to be a budget adopted even if it's temporary.
Commissioner Stonecash – I think next month is that alright with you? Next meeting?
Commissioner Wesler – Yeah, well they are going to look at Shawnda budget but I think the Partnership has somewhat put a budget together. So
Commissioner Stonecash – I asked her to make sure she had everything in her budget to the best of her knowledge. And as things come up during the course of a year like that fly-in that you are talking about. I don't know whether, I am not sure she had that in there or not.
Commissioner Wesler – Yeah, I think she said she did.
Commissioner Stonecash – I don't think she asked for a lot. I think she was pretty reasonable with money requests.
Commissioner Wesler – Oh yeah, yes she is. Ahhm yesterday Matt had some ahh the projections on what the Partnership was going to bringing in for the first two years and he had that written down in a budget.
Commissioner Stonecash – Oh did he? Good.
Commissioner Wesler – Yeah at the bottom of what she had requested. So
Commissioner Stonecash – Good
Commissioner Wesler – Connie you going to be able to schedule that meeting for us?
Connie – Yes
Commissioner Wesler – Is there anything else?
Connie – And then David you will be in tomorrow morning? And then Chris and I have a meeting at
Commissioner Stonecash – Oh what time is that meeting with Kleingers?
Commissioner Day – 10:30
Commissioner Stonecash – Do you care if I sit in on that?
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