This meeting and the landfill leachate vote held will have implications for Preble County over the next 20 years. In a 2 – 1 vote the Preble County Commissioners went with a committee recommendation that will send Preble County Landfill leachate to Lakengren for treatment. Commissioners Day and Stonecash voted for the motion and Commissioner Wesler voted against the proposal. There were fine reasons given by Junior Gunter and Kelly Moran in support for the Camden route. There were fine reasons given by Commissioner Wesler in support of the Camden route. Other than the committee recommendation it is my opinion that no reasons favorable to the future economic development of the county were given in support of Lakengren. The Citizens of Preble County should all have to listen to the one hour plus final exchange before the vote was held.
I find myself in complete agreement with Commissioner Wesler, the Camden Council members (Junior Gunter and Kelly Doran) and Gasper Township Trustee Eric White on this issue.
Preble County, Ohio, County Commissioners
December 28, 2009
Meeting audio and review
Opening
3.02 minutes – 713KB
Public Comments
Eric White – Gasper Township Trustee
Good chance for development at Camden. Industrial Development on possibly 80 acres.
Paint Creek issue not resolved for over a year after being brought to Preble County Commission attention back in 2008. Ohio Revised code puts the responsibility on County.
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6.53 minutes – 1.57MB
Junior Gunter – Camden Village Council
Pleased to see Commission working with Dayton Development Coalition for I-70 and Rt. 127 development. To him working that long and hard and then bypassing Camden was a slap in the face. How can you work on development there and then leave one of our small villages out? I also read on preblecounty.com that you thought Camden was a place for growth. To me, if you work that hard with Dayton Development Coalition then we have the prime chance to do it locally here to then if we get left out that don't seem right.
This guy is new to the process but doing his best for his village.
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Kelly Doran – Camden Village Council
Truly disappointed, more so with the way Camden has been treated in this whole process. Trouble getting before the County Commission to speak and present. Bad impression of this place. On Chris Day's limited input. FARCE to take it in another direction. County has spent $2.6 – $3 million on treating county landfill leachate since 1997. This guy is well informed and rightly upset. Very good points. $700 a day being lost on this issue. Appalled at back hand that Camden has got on issue. Issue with Chris Day's limited input and knowledge. Issue with Camden not even being listened to. Lakengren official knew Camden numbers. (Not fair). Issue with scoring. Brings up gravity feed line investment ($250,000) from Camden. No investment from Lakengren. Lakengren zero weight on economic development. Kelly Doran adds color and fills in areas of this issue that were previously lacking as to what was happening and how on the Camden side.
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17.08 minutes – 3.92MB
9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATES)
David asks about when they will be talking about the leachate. He is told "today".
31 MIN Mindy – Cash fund balance as of December 23 – $1,457,138.86. Revenues down about $74,000 off of estimate. Estimated expenses down $148,000 less than anticipated. Loss of 8.5% revenues from 2008, expenses cut over 17%.
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10.21 minutes – 2.37 MB
41 MIN Keith ??? from Camden in chambers (Miami U student). Conversation with Bob Stonecash.
44 MIN
VII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS
A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #673-09-142
RE: HONORING THE MEMORY OF GALEN HUNDLEY
VIII. BID RECOMMENDATIONS/ AWARDS
A. NOTE RECIEPT OF A BID RECOMMENDATION AND FURTHER CONSIDER
AWARDING THE BID AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER
RE: TWO (2) 2010 SINGLE AXLE CHASSIS
IX. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS
A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: PHONE & DSL SERVICE, EQUIPMENT & SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT
W/ CENTURYLINK (EMBARQ) – $11,335.54 – ENGINEER
47 MIN Bob – question on if it was bid
50 .5 MIN United Health Care
54. 5 MIN Bob on doing due diligence with regard to budget cuts early last year.
57.5 MIN Dave on Bob and Chris coming in January and making the tough decisions that needed to be made.
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18.15 minutes – 4.17 MB
10:00 A.M. – JFS & CHILDREN SVS. MONTHLY MEETING
Becky Sorrell
59 MIN On unemployment and mass lay-offs across the state. Unemployment higher in county than National average. No number given.
1 hr. 7.5 MIN Contracting with Mary Ditmer again.
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1 hr. 22.5 MIN Question on Leachate by Junior and growth for the county.
1 hr. 24.5 MIN Kelly Doran?? on Camden's numbers being released early unfairly. Not fair Camden – Never given a chance to get their numbers lower.
1 hr. 28.75 MIN Dave on his meeting earlier with Steve Simmons and Kyle. OWPC loan for laying down pipe. Does not like scoring. Has problem with the capacity issue. Disappointed that Economic Development was not given more weight and benefited the county.
1 hr. 36.3 MIN Chris on his reasons. Chris, you were elected to do what is best and you are penalizing someone (Camden) for not doing your job for you. This is a failure of leadership. Your reasons are total BS.
1 hr. 41.5 MIN Dave on OWPC loans having to be used in 2009 or 2010. Long term benefit vs. short term. Still does not like the scale. Favors entering negotiations with Camden. Right decision.
1 hr. 44.5 MIN Bob – price was the original reason. Committee made up of Chris Day, Steve Simmons, Tom Barnes, Kyle and Katie Worthington, knowledgeable.
1 hr. 47.5 MIN Dave on not knowing scoring system until late in the game.
1 hr. 48 MIN Chris on his views. (He would not let Kelly Doran ask questions)
1 hr. 49.5 MIN Dave on Camden being penalized for thinking economic development in their proposal.
1 hr. 50.5 MIN Dave – Compactor story. Looked at long term for benefit of story.
Chris – Disagreement with David. The boy is not getting it.
Dave – lack of possibility of economic development with Lakengren choice
Kelly – on Camden was paying for 8 inch feed and that this has been skewed.
1 hr. 54.5 MIN Junior – on comparisons with Exit 10 and looking at long haul, same thing with Camden. Good point Same issue.
1 hr. 56 MIN Bob – on committee and scoring system being fair. Mentions a timeline.
1 hr. 57.5 MIN Dave asks about the timeline. Connie had not seen it and Dave had not either.
Bob – he has it for some time.
1 hr. 59 MIN Chris – it does not matter. Dave knew how many meetings
1 hr. 59.5 MIN Kelly – on being stone walled.
2 hr. .5 MIN Chris – taking exception to Kelly's comments.
2 hr. 2 MIN Bob on friendships not entering into his decisions and other issues. Committee being knowledgeable. No favoritism on where it goes.
2 hr. 6 MIN Economic development is what we all want in Preble County. No one should feel they were not properly listened to.
2 hr. 7 MIN Kelly Doran – Committee was formed prior to that as well. Chris only showed up once – 60 minutes. (Evidently not a good meeting). Meetings somewhat pointed. Belief was everyone wanted to go to Camden. On craziness of Chris's comment about it all being speculation on economic development in Camden. No option at Lakengren.
2 hr. 10 MIN apparently another committee with Steve Simmons, Tom Barnes, sometimes Katie Worthington and Camden officials was set up in June of 2009?
2 hr. 11 MIN Kelly – brings up Chris Day being part of setting up scoring system and then objectively voting on the outcome Good Point You should not be voting on something you had a hand in creating. Camden has a chance to create real economic development. Does not like the smell test. Agreed
2 hr. 13 MIN Kelly – Steve had been told they would start hauling the leachate immediately. Did not do it because of contract to haul it to Cincinnati for 8.5 cents a gallon. Cost the county at least $250,000 on Chris & Bob's watch.
2 hr. 14.5 MIN Chris – need to move forward.
Kelly – we are talking $17,000 difference a year. On spending everyone else’s money but when it comes to spending your own. Rod Good has had inquiries, railroad regular interest. Chris voting on scoring of system he helped creates.
2 hr. 17 MIN Chris – disagrees.
2 hr. 17.5 MIN Kelly – would like to know why Camden never got an answer back on their proposal.
Chris – we were going out for RFP's .
Kelly – it was submitted before RFP's. Camden was never notified that negotiations had ceased.
Chris – he did not know that he was at a negotiating meeting.
Have to listen to this to get the tenor of this discussion
2 hr. 19 MIN Bob comments (some what hard to hear)
2 hr. 20 MIN Chris – Gentlemen (Dave & Bob) what do we want to do with this? Lists options.
Dave – enter negotiations with Camden
Bob – that's been done
Dave – make motion to cease with Lakengren and enter with Camden
Bob – not responsible thing
Motion dies for lack of second.
2 hr. 23.5 MIN Bob – on process. Makes motion to move on with Lakengren
Chris Day seconds the motion.
Dave – sighs.
Chris Day on process.
Bob – on need for Rod Good to share his information.
Motion passes 2 – 1 (Dave against)
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Adjourn