The County employees that have come here to find out more on the health insurance discussion, the files you are interested in are File 6 (which I did not listen to much or review) and File 9 which closes the meeting. I did listen to all of File 9 and it features the Commissioners thoughts on the health insurance issue and acknowledgement that “there are a lot of people listening.” 

File 3 has a proclamation read into the record recognizing Beth Sizelove on her retirement.

File 4 Has Commissioner Wesler commenting that he is “still hearing a lot of people confused about Goose Creek Crossing”.  The Commission was apparently not happy with the response at the Goose Creek Informational meeting held back in July and Chris Day is supposed to be coming up with a press release presenting more figures on how the project will be done without impacting the financial security of the county.  Dave mentioned over extension and “what developers have done over in Dayton.” The Dayton Daily News ran some stories this week that at the very least should have people in Preble County asking questions as to the wisdom of the Goose Creek Project. The Preble County Economic Director has repeatedly made claims about a regional approach and frankly if you accept her philosophy then issues in the Dayton area would affect Preble.  So far the only sign of regional activity though has been the pilfering of Preble County companies to areas generally in the Englewood/Clayton areas.  For more on the issue see: Story 1 (Lack of shared vision)   Story 2  (Industrial vacancies sign of tough economy). For even more information check out Paid to Sprawl<span style="color: black;" "="" ?page_id="1402&quo" news="" www.citizensforpreblecounty.com="">Agendas & Data Base page.

I look forward to reading the press release and I have a standing request for all new press releases from the Commission office.

File 6 and 9 as mentioned already are on the subject of county employee health insurance. File 9 though will be of interest to those that have followed this commission audio project since the preblevoice and prebleminutes days. Prebleminutes ran into excessive bandwidth issues along with the size of the website and was moved to another web account and the result was the record of old meetings was deleted. The oldest meeting date still available is the May 4, 2009.  Anyhow when the new commissioners came into office there were claims along the lines that the county had been left in financial distress. There were counter claims that the financial crisis was caused by the current commission’s financial incompetence. These commissioners denied those claims and proceeded to swing an axe on the county budget. They went after services like Soil & Water, OSU Extension and the Sheriff’s Department with drastic cuts. For proof of that please listen to File 37  from that May 4, 2009 meeting. Like others I said at the time that a big part of the problem was the commissioners giving out to much money in January instead of as needed throughout the year. The result was agencies like Soil & Water were asked for money back. This disrupted not only county agencies but people’s lives and it did not have to be. It was denied at the time by the three current Preble County Commissioners. It wasn’t funny then and it is not funny now. Well folks here you go, File 9A  :

File 9A ***2 hr. 47.6 Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Well as you know we use to advance a lot of places a lot of money the first of January and that caught up with us ahh several years ago. So even though they still get that same amount of money we just up fronted it and got you know short at the bank. So I don't see where the $38,200 is gonna be any effect, they are going to get it through out the year anyway.

Commissioner Day – Three years ago it would have been a factor laughter

Commissioner Wesler – That's what I am saying. We up fronted, we advanced, made so many advances in January and that's where we you know. My goodness we're ahh ran the bank account down.

Commissioner Stonecash – We just spent too damn much money. laughter

Commissioner Wesler – Well yeah I

Commissioner Day – Even at a thousand

Commissioner Wesler – that wasn't an issue

Commissioner Day – Even at a thousand a year, February 1st you would have $160 in there so. Yeah it is not that big of an issue.

Preble County, Ohio

Preble County Commissioners

September 26, 2011

Three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

End 3 minute mark on CD – 703 KB

File 2

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

Exit no action taken.

SANITARY ENGINEER INTERVIEWS

Multiple Executive Sessions

16.75 minute mark on cd  

13.48 minutes – 3.16 MB

File 3

FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A PAID NOTE

RE: GATES JOINT DITCH IMPROVEMENT NOTE – $34,428.39

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN AMENDED CERTIFICATE

RE: JUVENILE TASC ($13,000.00)

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #559-11-152

RE: TRANSFER – VARIOUS FUNDS

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #560-11-152

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – JUVENILE TASC ($13,000.00); FELONY SUBSIDY ($25,000.00)

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #561-11-152

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – SHERIFF ($258.10); FELONY SUBSIDY ($10,000.00)

CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING (2) LETTERS TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR

RE: CERTIFICATION OF Q-DITCH ASSESSMENTS – BROCK #911 & GATES JOINT #909 DITCHES

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT TO THE 2005 BUSINESS PLAN FOR LOCAL AREA #7 WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #557-11-152

RE: REQUESTING AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING RESOLUTION OF PREBLE CO. TO INCLUDE A NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION, COMMERICAL DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT – 1

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #558-11-152

22 Minute mark  RE: PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING BETH SIZELOVE ON HER RETIREMENT – Read into the record

BID RECOMMENDATION/AWARD

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A BID RECOMMENDATION FROM KRAMER & ASSOCIATES AND FURTHER CONSIDER AWARDING THE BID AS RECOMMENDED

RE: WEST ELKTON – CAMDEN AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS PHASE 1

AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SINGING A CHANGE ORDER.

RE: CHANGE ORDER #1 TO ELDORADO WWTP ALTERATIONS – CONTRACT B AGREEMENT W/ ARCON BUILDERS – INCREASE $8,786.00 – FY10 CDBG

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CHANGE ORDER

RE: CHANGE ORDER #1 TO FY11 REFUSE PICKUP AGREEMENT W/RUMPKE – INCREASE $500.00 – ENGINEER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT #1 TO TECHNICAL SERVICES AGREEMENT W/AECOM –INCREASE $4,500.00 & EXTEND COMPLETION DATE 7 MONTHS – PCSD#2

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CHANGE ORDER

RE: CHANGE ORDER #1 TO GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELL R-2 REPLACEMENT W/FRONTZ DRILLING –INCREASE $965.00 & INCREASE COMPLETION TIME 2 MONTHS – LANDFILL CONSTRUCTION

TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #562-11-152 – COMMISSIONERS WESLER, DAY & STONECASH – COMMISSION –  December 11 – 13 CCAO Winter Conference Cost not to exceed $2,300

B. RES. #563-11-152 – JUDITH BARTH – JFS Cost not to exceed $10

C. RES. #564-11-152 – JUDITH BARTH – JFS Cost not to exceed $10

28.4 Minute mark  Commissioner Wesler – Did you have anything else?

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30.5 Minute mark   Connie – Retirement party for Beth Sizelove this Friday at 4:30.

Commissioner Day – Is that OSU meeting on Friday to?

Commissioner Wesler – Yes

35 minute mark on cd  

18.14 minutes – 4.17 MB

File 4

35.5 Minute mark    Commissioner Wesler – I am still hearing a lot of people confused about Goose Creek Crossing and you know I was thinking the other day. You know with Mercer County how they started their development up there and started with their economic development director because they were the highest unemployment in the state. How they have turned that around and have been now one of the lowest unemployment in the state. You know there are just some folks who think we are over extending ourselves by like some of the developers have done over in the Dayton, south Dayton stuff like that so. Ahhm once again when are you going to be able to get us a press release? That we can put out. On more of what the costs are going to be I mean Bob and I have a good idea but we are sorts of relying on you to tell us what going to go on. I mean we know the phases part of it but ahh but more detailed costs. The Dayton Daily News just ran two stories on these issues:  Story 1 (Lack of shared vision)   Story 2  (Industrial vacancies sign of tough economy). For even more information check out Paid to Sprawl which has been an available link over on the Agendas & Data Base page.

Commissioner Day – I will probably get that all put together this week and so hopefully next week we can have something.  

Commissioner Wesler – Well I know a while back you had talked about the $75,000 per year would be the loan repayment. Where does the JRS fit in I mean I am going to be continuing to push the JRS grant and ahh gonna try to get us in front of you know the ODOD Jobs Ohio / if you will during the transition up in Columbus but we just need to get the word out there and show everybody that we're not going to over extend ourselves and it will be built in phases. And the so so maybe by next Monday you'll you should have it?

Commissioner Day – I'll try and put everything together and ahhm matter of fact I've got to call Dave Wright back. I've got a message to call him ahh I've got to call him sometime today and touch base with him. I'll try and put everything put together that we've got to date. And if we don't have set numbers we'll just have to go with some estimates at this point. If that is what you guys want to do?

Commissioner Wesler – Well we want the best of what is happening because I know there have been a couple expenditures already that maybe even you weren't expecting. We had to pay the $47,000 loan and stuff like that so (see Auditor's report link from September 19, 2011 meeting)  yeah the best you can get us. We need to know that and need to get it in the newspaper.

Commissioner Day – I will put that together.

Connie – You know we have our meeting tomorrow.

Commissioner Day – Yeah I need to talk to you about that. I saw that on my calendar.

Commissioner Wesler – Also with ahmm with new companies and stuff, where are we at with the revolving loan fund? Can Kim ahh Kim knows as bout about the revolving loan fund and its past history doesn't she?

Connie – We have our own

Commissioner Wesler – Yeah that is what I mean

Connie – through CDBG

Commissioner Wesler – Right to get it

Commissioner Day – It is through the CDBG ahhm and I've got all that information back on my desk but yeah I'll get with Kim and we can ahh it is just a matter of getting the project that fits the bill.

Commissioner Wesler – And it very when Shawnda gets that information she might be able to identify a project that ahh cause she hears more about stuff going on before we do now. Being the ED director. Anything else?

RECESS FOR LUNCH

39.6 minute mark on cd  

4.44 minutes – 1.08 MB

File 5

SANITARY ENGINEER INTERVIEWS

Multiple Executive Sessions

46.4 minute mark on cd  

6.46 minutes – 1.54 MB

File 6

HEALTH INSURANCE MEETING

NOT REVIEWED

2 hr. 10 minute mark on cd  

1 hr. 23.42 minutes – 19.1 MB

File 7

Connie – Do you want to do the additional item David? There is two of them.

Commissioner Stonecash – At what point do we have to talk about the Health Department? Are we going to have a meeting with their Board or are we just going to decide the obvious?

Connie – What are we going to do?

Commissioner Stonecash – At some point we got to

Connie – I'll give you a quote. It was cancelled Chris was supposed to walk out with Phil Kramer about two weeks ago…. Phil Kramer was going to go around with Chris Harper… quote sheet. He's working the figures up now.

2 hr. 12 Minute mark   Connie on quotes for a new boiler in courthouse. Three requests for quotes and only one returned from Lowman at $22,500. 702,000 btu boiler.

County has two good boilers. Previously there were four boilers.

Resolution 555.

2 hr. 17.5 minute mark on cd  

7.3 minutes – 1.71 MB

File 8

EXECUTIVE SESSION POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

John Jones and Steve Simmons present.

Exit no action taken.

Two applicants to be called back for second interview.

2 hr. 19.8 minute mark on cd  

2.25 minutes – 570 KB

File 9

Health Insurance Discussion

Commissioner Stonecash – Well we should pass some information on because I am sure there are a lot of people listening.

Commissioner Wesler – What?

Commissioner Stonecash – I am sure they will be listening to the tape so they will know what we are talking about. No disrespect meant to anybody. lol

Extended discussion on issue, please listen for a better understanding.

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***2 hr. 47.6 Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Well as you know we use to advance a lot of places a lot of money the first of January and that caught up with us ahh several years ago. So even though they still get that same amount of money we just up fronted it and got you know short at the bank. So I don't see where the $38,200 is gonna be any effect, they are going to get it through out the year anyway.

Commissioner Day – Three years ago it would have been a factor laughter

Commissioner Wesler – That's what I am saying. We up fronted, we advanced, made so many advances in January and that's where we you know. My goodness we're ahh ran the bank account down.

Commissioner Stonecash – We just spent too damn much money. laughter

Commissioner Wesler – Well yeah I

Commissioner Day – Even at a thousand

Commissioner Wesler – that wasn't an issue

Commissioner Day – Even at a thousand a year, February 1st you would have $160 in there so. Yeah it is not that big of an issue.

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2 hr. 51.2 minute mark on cd  

31.18 minutes – 7.16 MB

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