This meeting has plenty of discussion of funding for Goose Creek Crossing. Recovery Zone Bonds, matching grants and the percentage different funding requires. Preble County officials had yet to come up with any inventory of possible grants or funding over the last few years that could be used for a match on applications. The recent Conveyance Fee increase is currently on target to raise over $80,000 a year. County Engineer Steve Simmons also mentioned selling a 90 acre farm the county owns and raising the license plate fee.
Issue 2 money was mentioned for funding of water and sewer infrastructure at Goose Creek. I've been getting word that Issue 2 money may also become a point of interest if Camden officials ever get their act together and take legal action on the treatment they received on the landfill leachate issue. Citizens of Preble County should also take notice of the JRS (Job Ready Site) application at Goose Creek. Had the leachate gone to Camden, Ohio it would have opened up an area for economic and industrial development that already has much of the infrastructure that Goose Creek lacks. Citizens of Preble County already pay a landfill assessment and the question of it being used to subsidize Lakengren should be a major issue. Jobs and bang for the buck all favor Camden. Chris Day has previously put the $250,000 current grant and Goose Creek work at 1% of the eventual cost of the project. While the County Commissioners parade the project around to Chamber and Rotary membership it should not be forgotten that Camden can offer far more for far less money. It does not require selling farm or raising license plate fees on county residents.
There was also talk of Preble County setting up a Port Authority. The reoccurring theme throughout these discussions is the fact that the county currently lacks an agreement on the purchase of any land in the area of Goose Creek that is to get the benefit of the $250,000 grant money and project currently in the process of being completed by March 1, 2010. This is in addition to the previously mentioned lack of any thorough compilation of funds or previous grants and corresponding dates that could be used in the pursuit of matching grants.
Camden officials may want to pay attention to file 8 which has some mention by Katie Worthington of leachate, Camden and Lakengren. The discussion appears to take place just outside chambers with other conversations going on at the same time.
Preble County, Ohio
County Commissioners
January 13, 2010
Meeting audio and review
Opening
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9:00 A.M. – ABBOTT THAYER & MINDY ROBBINS (RECOVERY ZONE BONDS)
Explanation of Recovery Zone Bonds. The debt needs to be paid back. Feds pick up 35 – 45% of the interest.
Two types of bonds: Economic Bonds and Facility Bonds
7 minute The opportunity for these bonds is scheduled to end this year with a deadline for application the end of January. Each county has an allocation and if they don't make an application it goes back into the pool. While they present a great opportunity for some, many do not want to expand in this economy.
11 minute There has to be a good faith intention to use the money.
15 minute Dave – asks question about previous clients and how they were helped through process.
17.5 minute Build America Bonds used for infrastructure new money projects (Does not have a January deadline) and has 35% assistance with the interest payment and it ends the end of 2010. Recovery Zone Bonds – are a subset of them but even better at 45%. This type has the Economic Bond and Facility Bond. They also end this year.
You have to have companies that want to do something.
19.5 minute Steve Simmons question. The guy mentions Wal Mart and Kroger being the type that would be good. Joe's Widget may have a problem. May require 25% down.
Steve Simmons asks question on the paper work involved (he has heard horror stories)
23 minute Mindy – any type of federal dollars and reporting by her office.
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24 minute Dave Wesler – Asks for an example involving southwest quadrant and Jay's company (Kleingers). He wants to know if they (County) will be given time to get some companies there. Dave mentioned JOB READY SITE Grants. How does the payback work? Not to beat a dead horse but the area north of Camden that would have been opened with the leachate would have had rail, sewer, highway and access to water, gas and electric.
Abbot Thayer – Principle payments can be back loaded possibly a couple years but interest would start in a few months. All that (back loading) is real good if you get companies in there who start paying real estate taxes and such but if you don't find a company then you have just made a bad situation worse. The economy is kind of shaky.
30 minute Chris Day – The only way these are going to work is that we need a commitment from someone up front.
35 minute Mindy Robbins – asks a question of Katie about the consequences of making the whole county or an area of Goose Creek a recovery zone. Would doing so restrict the ability to take advantage of other things like TIF's, CRA's, TURKS (what is a TURK?) .
Katie does think so.
39.75minute Abbot Thayer asks if Preble has a Port Authority. Nice tool to have.
42 minute Chris Day asks what the advantage of having a Port Authority is?
A.T. – it can make coordination easier if you have a couple townships or communities and one can be the financing vehicle.
May not count against the debt capacity of the county. Port Authorities just issue revenue debt. Need a dedicated revenue source.
End of meeting with Abbott Thayer
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GOOSE CREEK CROSSING PROJECT
51 minute Jay from –Kleingers – Discussion of option or right of first refusal on this property ( Kemp Property – 200 acres). They need it before being able to go much further.
How does this project get built out? Funding needed for infrastructure.
Acquire property so that it can be transferred by the CIC. Mention of the area becoming a county Industrial Park.
55 minute Shovel ready sites. Infrastructure money needed.
58 minute Dave – wants to know if there has been any discussion with Miami about their former interest? Kleingers plans to contact them later that day.
59 minute County needs to get some sort of commitment on the land.
1hr 1 minute Mention of Duke or Pizzuti as developer.
Plan to have Kleingers meet with the Chamber tomorrow and the Rotary next week.
1hr 4 minute Mention of total raised since September from the rise in the Conveyance fee, on track for over $80,000.
1hr 8 minute Eventual need for local match for grant funding or leverage. Conveyance fee again mentioned.
1hr 11 minute Dave – mention selling a county farm.
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VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS
NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS ON JANUARY 15TH AS
SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR ON JANUARY 15, 2010
VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS
A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A COURT ORDER FROM JUDGE DUES, JUVENILE COURT
RE: SPECIAL FUNDS PROBATE MAGISTRATE FEES
B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #60-10-142
RE: AUTH. ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW FUND – PRICES CREEK BRIDGE
REPLACEMENT FUND
C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #64-10-142
RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – FY09 CDBG CHIP
D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #65-10-142
RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – GENERAL MISCELLANEOUS
IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS
A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION CLERK
RE: 2010 INVENTORIES RECEIVED
X. APPOINTMENTS
A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF (2) APPOINTMENTS
RE: APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER WESLER & COMMISSIONER STONECASH
AS REPRESENTATIVE & ALTERNATE TO MVRPC & APPOINTMENT OF STEVE
SIMMONS & KYLE CROSS AS REPRESENTATIVE & ALTERNATE TO MVRPC
TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
XI. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS
A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT
RE: IV-D CONTRACT W/ MARY DITMER – $42,254.40 – CSEA
B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: JANITORIAL SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ CONNIE MARTIN – $14,400.00 – JFS
C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: SCRAP TIRE COLLECTION SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ LIBERTY TIRE, INC. – $19,000.00 – RECYCLING
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10:30 A.M. – KLEINGERS & ASSOC. (GOOSE CREEK CROSSING PROJECT)
Funding strategies for Goose Creek
JRS (Job Ready Site) application in process.
1hr 36 minute 20% – 50% matching funds usually needed for grants, possibility of using CDBG money as part of the match. Mention of Issue 2 (Issue 2 money is for infrastructure such as water and sewer. This is of interest because Issue 2 money may become part of any legal battle over not taking the landfill leachate to Camden).
1hr 37 minute Dave – mentioned that previously the improvements done previously by the state at Exit 10 were used as part of the JRS application 4 – 5 years ago. The time frame is important because those improvements can be used as part of matching funds a grant application for a period of five years.
1hr 39 minute County Committee – Steve Simmons is President and Chair of the Executive Committee and mentions that Chris Day (also on Executive Committee and small loans committee) is a member and Bob Stonecash will be next year. Also of interest if Camden decides to make a case of the leachate.
1hr 40 minute Steve Simmons gives a list of membership and extended explanation of how things are done locally and in the district. Preble County is the only county with two people on the Executive Committee.
1hr 11 minute Kleingers asks what kind of total match for funding the county may be able to come up with. Conveyance fee mentioned.
1hr 47 minute Steve Simmons mentions 90 acre farm that could be sold.
1hr 48 minute Talk of CDBG. Usually about $175,000 of which some goes to the City of Eaton, the rest to local villages.
1hr 52.5 minute Rural development grants.
1hr 53 minute Stimulus dollars.
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1hr 55 minute Preble County Engineer Steve Simmons mentions the engineer department can do in kind work. Steve Simmons then brought up increasing the license plate fee tax. Mentions having brought it up to Chris Day. Steve is asked (Kyle Cross?)about whether they (engineer department) should keep track of time spent on Goose Greek.
1hr 57 minute Kleingers mentions having an Industrial Park sign up and having a water tower as being a sign that things are actually getting done to public.
1hr 58.5 minute Back to coming up with a total available for matching funds for leverage.
1hr 59 minute Last JRS application was mentioned as being 2006. Dave – Vectren mentioned they would get gas to area.
2hr 1 minute Sean Maggard – Connect Ohio mentioned as using USDA Stimulus. Innovative Fiber Optic Solutions sits on committee and Kleingers mentions has previously sat on JRS site.
New representative to be at Tuesday meeting. Asked about if grant could be used as matching money.
2hr 8 minute Talk of getting local businesses – truck stops, motel about hooking into the water and sewer as a means of the county generating some income out there and businesses saving money and hassle of maintaining their own systems.
2hr 10 minute David Wesler mentions running water and sewer from Stateline.
2hr 11 minute Again, need to inventory what county has available for match and then look at grants that may fit. They (Kleingers) need some real numbers first.
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After meeting conversations (more than one going on).
2hr 22 minute Mention of seven month time frame for rezoning of may be able to cut it to three months.
2hr 29 minute Conversations appear to move into hall outside of chamber (may want to use headphones).
2hr 34 minute Katie Worthington mentions Camden & Lakengren in conversation with Steve Simmons. Leachate mentioned. Scoring mentioned?? Conversation continues into the 2hr 37 minute mark.
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D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: COMPUTER MAINTENANCE SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ EATON COMPUTER –
$6,000.00 – ENGINEER
E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: E-911 SOFTWARE SUPPORT & LICENSING AGREEMENT W/ DIGITAL DATA
TECHNOLOGIES, INC. – $4,530.00 – 911 FUND
XI. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS
F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT
RE: ZONING APPEALS MEMBER CONTRACT W/ SARAH DRIVER – $600.00 –
RURAL ZONING
G. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: BERM, GEOSYNTHETICS, RECOMPACTED CLAY & PUMP STATIONS
CONSTRUCTION PLANS PREPARATION AGREEMENT W/ MALCOLM PIRNIE –
$168,000.00 – LANDFILL CONSTRUCTION
H. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT
RE: SAFE PROGRAM FUNDING MOU AGREEMENT W/ JUVENILE COURT
($12,500.00) & MHRB ($12,617.50) & JFS
I. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN EXECUTED AGREEMENT
RE: HOUSING REVOLVING LOAN FUND ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENT W/ ODOD
J. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN EXECUTED AGREEMENT
RE: PHONE & DSL SERVICE & EQUIPMENT AGREEMENT W/ CENTURYLINK
(EMBARQ) – ENGINEER
XII. TRAVEL REQUESTS
NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:
A. RES. #61-10-142 – ALICE FLORA – SPECIAL PROJ. – COURT TRAINING
B. RES. #62-10-142 – TERRY PENDERGRAFT – VET. SVS.
C. RES. #63-10-142 – JAYNE JACKLIN & GARY MOORE – JFS
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2hr 48 minute Connie – Help wanted ad for assistant EMA director, part time position – 30 hrs a week. Top three applicants to be submitted to Board. Job to be posted on website and in paper. January 20 in paper, deadline January 27.
2hr 51.5 minute Meeting scheduled with Matt Appenzeller of Chamber of Commerce. Meeting Friday January 15, at 2:00 p.m. Preble County Partnership Incorporated (Chamber of Commerce). Eight – ten people invited.
2hr 53 minute ODOD – Recovery Zone Bonds application due by January 31. Allocation will be waived if no application received by that date.
Connie – designate county as whole. Involves companies that may be looking at expansion. Could also be Fairgrounds or a non-profit. Has to be used this year.
3hr 5 minute CCAO roster
3hr 5 .5 minute Connie – need to go into Executive Session to discuss the possible discipline of a county employee. Direction on what the Board would like to do this afternoon.
Out of session. No action taken. Connie advised to call Sheriff Simpson and invite him down at 2:00 p.m. and bring "county employee."
3hr 8 minute Recess until 1:30 p.m.
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Back at 1:37
3hr 8.5 minute Connie – presented Commissions with a performance audit for the Fairgrounds that was done back in 2002. Letter noted.
3hr 9 minute Bob Stonecash – Mention of employee of Preble County (name given on audio) , last chance agreement signed by employee. She has been being tardy 6 of the last 7 days this year. Commissioner Stonecash reads letter in to record. Employee placed on notice, next time employee will be terminated.
Letter approved by commissioners.
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3hr 32 minute Back in chambers, Bob greets employee.
2:02 p.m. Bob -… tardiness and inaccurate time sheets.
3hr 35 minute Commissioner Stonecash reads letter to employee. August 27, 2008 last chance agreement. One more tardy will result in termination.
Preble County Sheriff Mike Simpson in room.
Adjourn
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