Some time ago I started including County Commissioner attendance as a feature so that taxpayers could track how many meetings were missed by Preble County Commissioners. There was a stretch of weeks where it seemed someone was always missing.  Let’s face it or as Bob Stonecash stated in today’s meeting “we only meet two days a week”. If a commissioner regularly misses I have to wonder if they are there for the job or the benefit package. Seriously, they knew what the job entailed when they asked voters to elect them, at least show up to the darn meetings that you are being paid for. It is an issue that needs to be paid attention to and it comes to the forefront in File 6A of this meeting.  The absenteeism of Commissioner Wesler is an issue of contention even between commissioners. There is an election at hand, hopefully all of you will vote on November 2 and you need to know the facts and the facts are the basis of the Citizens For Preble County website. This whole effort is based on what is said on the “..CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES…”of the Preble County, Commission meetings. It is repeated in the Approval of Minutes at every meeting.  

So please read the transcript of File 6A and pass it along in conversation and email to other voters. It is your county people, if a Commissioner regularly misses meetings and this meeting has Commissioner Day and Commissioner Stonecash commenting on Commissioner Wesler’s repeated absences then voters need to know. Read this review, listen to the audio, the topic comes up repeatedly and make an informed decision when you vote November 2.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

October 6,  2010

Meeting audio and review

Two Commissioners in attendance

Commissioner Wesler absent – (Commissioner Stonecash reports due to illness, others have said he was putting up signs)

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER – (prayer for Reds win)

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION AND NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 4TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

End 4.02 minute mark on CD – 948 KB

File 2

Commissioner Stonecash – Ok Connie..

Connie – Well Bob we've had quite a few discussions on our Health Insurance during the past meetings and then we had the recommendation of the Insurance Advisory Board during our last meeting. It is unfortunate that Commissioner Wesler isn't here today because it has been heavy on my mind on the decision that we decided upon last Monday. Since then I had other members of the Board to consider possibly the Board revisiting what we discussed on Monday.  ??? you have the information in front of . I don't know whether Bob — let me provide you with the chart. Commissioner Day might have an easier one to look at. (Papers shuffling) On this chart I have the current rates I have Option 5 the one that we acted upon on the 75/25.  Option 7 80/20 which we talked about and we've added a new one under Option 7 – 83/17 and that is to the right. Below it show per month – per pay period – per year – per hour, those rate that would affect the employees. ….

Commissioner Stonecash – While we did take the recommendation of the Committee after thinking about it over night I think we all agree that is not a good option. And in being good stewards of our employees we need to reconsider with a plan that is more favorable to what they can afford.

Commissioner Day – Well ahhm, since our decision on Monday and even in the afternoon. After looking these through, Connie and I both wanted to look at a different option because when you start looking at the affect that this has aahhh on the employees and then since then I have talked to several department heads, elected officials and employees. Ahhh so I think that we need to revisit this aahhh in my opinion after thinking it through I think some things have come to light that aahhm puts a little bit of perspective to me and ahh and you know one of the things that we always said was that that insurance for the catastrophic event. Ahhm yeh I mean you do have that covers you're Doctor's visits and check-ups and things of this nature and that's great but one of the insurance needs to be there is someone gets a major illness. Hopefully that doesn't happen but we all know that someone unfortunately is going to have that happen to them. Ahhm looking at ahhh the different plans I think we need to have a discussion I guess unfortunately probably we need to have this with the entire Board. Ahhm Connie's gotten some information for us ahh I broke it down additionally. I'll be more than happy to get you copied of this and share this with you but I think this is something the entire Board needs to make a decision on.

Commissioner Stonecash – I agree

Commissioner Day – Ahh the biggest difference between Option 5 and Option 7 is the ahh the 30/20 or 30/70 vs. 80/20 I don't have my I'm shooting from off the hip here. I've got it here somewhere but here here it is Connie yeah. The ahh get on the right page. Your deductable goes from 500 & 1000 to 1000 & 2000 and co-insurance is 80/20 vs. 70/30 and other than that is the basic difference in the plans the way that it is laid out here. Ahh with that being said I think we need to really look at maybe going to Option 7 and then we need to look at the shares at that point in my opinion. So ahh I don't know how much further discussion we want to have today with David not being here. I would like to put this on for a priority for next Monday, Mr. Chairman.

Commissioner Stonecash – Ahh yeah I agree exactly with what you are saying. The large figures only affect a few amount of people.  Hopefully we don't have a major problem but I think we have to have act in the majority and the benefit of the majority instead of the few.

Discussion continues on affordability.

12 minute mark    Connie – on rescinding decision of Monday for Option 5 and reconsider Option 7

12.5 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash – I wish Commissioner Wesler would have been in attendance today so that we could take care of business. Put it on for early on Friday morning or I mean Monday morning.

15 minute mark on cd  

11 minutes –  2.52 MB

File 3

Commissioner Stonecash – What's the good word this morning men?

16.3 minute mark     Someone asks  "How are things coming up there on 127 & 70 any movement on that at all?"

Commissioner Stonecash – We're trying to get a lot of grants. We applied for a JRS Grant, we didn't get it. But we reviewed with the JRS Committee why we missed. So the next one we will be able to put in a request that they like and hopefully they will. We have applied for an OWDA loan.

Someone – As soon as you get that the place will explode.

Commissioner Stonecash – Starting this past Monday Shawnda Combs has begun her duties as Economic Development Director and she is an energetic, very well versed, good back ground and she hit the ground running.

17.6 minute mark     Discussion of Friday October 1, land auction.

Commissioner Stonecash – Pretty reasonable prices that they bought

18.25  minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – It would have been a very good price to pay but we hadn't the money to do it. But maybe one day we will be talking to Dewy about it.

22.5 minute mark on cd  

7.31 minutes –  1.72 MB

File 4

VII. MEETINGS

9:30 A.M. – PUBLIC HEARING – ZONING CASES

A. CASE #1279 – AMENDMENT TO RURAL ZONING RESOLUTION – SMALL WIND PROJECTS

B. CASE #1280 – JERRY HARGIS

C. CASE #1281 – JERROL & VICKI MEREDITH

42.5 minute mark on cd  

20 minutes –  4.58 MB

File 5

Hearing continues.

1 hr.  4.3 minute mark on cd  

21.51 minutes –  5 MB

File 6

Commissioner Stonecash – What else do you have dear?

1 hr. 5.25  minute mark    Connie – three legal ads 1282 -1283 – 1284 all to be heard on November 3, at 9:30 a.m.

1 hr. 6.6  minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – I did attend an FCFC meeting yesterday.

1 hr. 7.5 minute mark    Winter Conferences

1 hr. 8 minute mark     Christmas tree in Courthouse

1 hr. 9.5 minute mark     Connie – on contacting the Register Herald about needing someone to donate a tree. Asks if Commissioners if they know of anyone who would like to donate a tree.

Commissioner Stonecash – We could get one about 10:00 some evening.

Connie – laughs

Connie to ask Register Herald about running something.

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File 6A   **** RECORDED AT HIGHER BITRATE FOR BETTER REVIEW BY CITIZENS OF PREBLE COUNTY ****

1 hr. 13.75 minute mark     Commissioner Day – You find it odd huh?

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Commissioner Stonecash – Hmm?

Commissioner Day – You find it odd

Commissioner Stonecash – I find this busy work.

Commissioner Day – huh?

Commissioner Stonecash – I find this busy work.

Commissioner Day – No I am talking about

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeh it is. whispering  "He is not sick"  LOL NO KIDDING  

Commissioner Day – Hmm?

Commissioner Stonecash – He is not ill

Commissioner Day –  Nope

Commissioner Stonecash – And it has happened to many, it has and if you are yeah. You came in a couple days you weren't feeling worth a damn.

Commissioner Day –  Yeah

Commissioner Stonecash – But you know I find it rather important that we get that insurance done.

Commissioner Day – Ahhm

Commissioner Stonecash – To get the concern off of everybody's mind

Commissioner Day – mmhh

Commissioner Stonecash – All over with for everybody that is involved

Commissioner Day – Ahh

Commissioner Stonecash – And we only meet two days a week. Show everyone we care.

Commissioner Day – Ahh it is probably the most important thing we need to deal with at this point in time

Commissioner Stonecash – mmhh

Commissioner Day – But who am I

Commissioner Day – Ahh take this back to my desk

1 hr. 15.75 minute mark     Connie – comes in and whispers something about recording.  LOL

File 6A

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1 hr.  19 minute mark on cd  

14.39 minutes –  3.35 MB

File 7

1 hr. 20 minute mark     10:30 A.M. – BRENDA MILLER (VICTIM WITNESS GRANT)

1 hr.  27.80 minute mark on cd  

8.53 minutes –  2.03 MB

File 8

1 hr. 28 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – waiting on Charles

Connie – I have one more thing. Conversation with Becky at JFS and previous topic of employees retiring and need to train them before that. Pay range 7 starts at $13.99 and out at $18.58. All classified positions, nonexempt and would like to post them internally.

1 hr. 30.25 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – Could she get a better qualified person maybe by going outside?  Good question

We appointed her in charge of that department but it is whatever she thinks is best.

1 hr. 31.75 minute mark    Amending zoning fees

1 hr.   38.4 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – I think I am going home. (joking)

Commissioner Day – Alright Bob see you Monday.

1 hr.  40.25 minute mark on cd  

12.22 minutes –  2.83 MB

File 9

Between meeting chatter

1 hr.  52.8 minute mark on cd  

12.39 minutes –  2.89 MB

File 10

11:00 A.M. – BID OPENING – GRATIS – EAST STREET NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS – FY09 NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION

Five Bids

CK Excavating of Eaton, Ohio.                         $279,435

CJ Construction & Utilities of Miamisburg      $253,936.50

WG Stang of Hamilton                                       $255,000

LJ Deweese sp? Tipp City                                 $295,201.50

CA Stemply sp?? Hamilton                                 $325,159.25

2 hr.  2.75 minute mark on cd  

9.52 minutes –  2.25 MB

File 11

11:15 A.M. – CHARLIE BIGGS (EOP FOR COURTHOUSE)

2 hr.   3.5 minute mark    Meeting starts.

2 hr.  22.75 minute mark on cd  

20 minutes –  4.57 MB

File 12

CHARLIE BIGGS (EOP FOR COURTHOUSE) Continues…

2 hr.  41 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – motions to ADJOURN

2 hr.  41.3 minute mark on cd  

18.37 minutes –  4.26 MB