Denise Robertson Elected President of County Commission

This is the audio review for the Monday, January 13, 2020, Preble County Commission meeting.  I'm trying something new and posting a copy of the whole .mp3 file that was delivered to me on the audio cd.

Please take the time and listen to the audio and form your own opinions.

 

Preble County Commissioners

January 13, 2020

Three Commissioners in attendance

Begins just after 1 minute mark on cd.

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. REORGANIZATION OF THE BOARD

A. CLERK TO ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD FOR FY20

B. PRESIDENT ACCEPTS NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD FOR FY20

2.5 minute mark    Extended pause as no one nominates anyone.

4.25 minute mark    Kim Keller – Nominate someone, I don't think I'm allowed to.

6.5 minute mark    Commissioner Creech makes comments and at 7.4 minute mark nominates Commissioner Robertson for President. Commissioner Robertson becomes President with a 3-0 vote.

8.25 minute mark    Commissioner Day nominated and elected Vice President with a 3-0 vote.

9 minute mark   Commissioner Robertson takes over meeting as new Commission President.  

VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS

9.25 minute mark   Could not make out his name.   He speaks up after that.  Asks about cameras being present at Jail and a internal investigation done. Not going to let it go.

VII. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 8, 2020 REGULAR SESSION MEETING.

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN AMENDED CERTIFICATE

RE: FY20 OFFICIAL AMENDED CERTIFICATE

14.25 minute mark   $17,083,041.26

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #55-20-190

RE: 2020 PERMANENT APPROPRIATIONS

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN AMENDED CERTIFICATE

RE: PYRMONT RD. BRIDGE REHAB PROJECT – $1,203,672.56

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #56-20-190

RE: SUPPLE. APPROPRIATION – PYRMONT RD. BRIDGE REHAB PROJECT – $1,203,672.56

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #57-20-190

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

F. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #58-20-190

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

G. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #59-20-190

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

H. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #60-20-190

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – SHERIFF ($3,275.00)

IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) LETTERS SENT TO THE PREBLE CO. BOARD OF DEV. DISABILITIES

RE: RESIGNATION OF STEVEN HURD; ALLIE SHAFER – PREBLE CO. BOARD OF DEV. DISABILITIES

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE ENGINEER

RE: RESIGNATION OF RONALD GARNETT – ENGINEER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A HELP WANTED AD

RE: BOARD MEMBERS – PREBLE CO. BOARD OF DEV. DISABILITIES

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION CLERK

RE: FY20 COUNTY DEPARTMENTAL INVENTORIES

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS & BID FORM

RE: FY20 RESURFACING & PAVEMENT MARKING BID – ENGINEER

F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS & BID FORM

RE: FY20 CHIP & SEAL BID – ENGINEER

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X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT #2 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SVS. AGREEMENT W/ THE SIMMONS GROUP – EXTEND COMPLETION DATE – COMMISSION

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT #2 TO THE INET IT SUPPORT SVS. AGREEMENT W/ DTGI – EXTEND AN ADD’L YEAR ($8,700.00) – PROSECUTOR

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING (7) AMENDMENTS

RE: AMENDMENTS TO THE CHILD PLACEMENT AGREEMENTS W/ EASTWAY BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE ($150,000.00); MICHAEL’S RESOURCE & TREATMENT CENTER ($80,000.00); QUALITY TIME WITH WISDOM ($40,000.00); CHOICES, INC. ($200,000.00); NECCO, INC. ($30,000.00); SAFY ($80,000.00); AGAPE FOR YOUTH, INC. ($250,000.00) – CHILDREN SVS.

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: REUNIFICATION SVS. AGREEMENT W/ AGAPE FOR YOUTH, INC. – $30,001.00 – CHILDREN SVS.

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: IV-D CONTRACT W/ MARY A. NELSON DBA MMPI CONSULTING, LLC – $60,753.58 – CSEA

F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT TO THE URINE SCREENS AGREEMENT W/ TASC – EXTEND SVS.

AN ADD’L YEAR – CHILDREN SVS. ($2,500.00); JFS ($500.00)

G. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: JANITORIAL SVS. AGREEMENT W/ LEDFORD’S CLEANING SVS. – $19,800.00 – JFS

H. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: URINE SCREENS AGREEMENT W/ DARKE CO. RECOVERY SVS. – JFS ($1,000.00); CHILDREN

SVS. ($7,000.00)

I. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: SNOW REMOVAL & SALT APPLICATION AGREEMENT W/ PERFORMANCE OUTDOORS –

$8,000.00 – JFS

J. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: NET TRANSPORTATION & TITLE XX TRANSPORTATION AGREEMENT W/ UNIVERSAL

TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS – $145,000.00 – JFS

K. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: DATA MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT W/ DDTI – EXTEND AN ADD’L YEAR ($12,000.00) –

WIRELESS 9-1-1

L. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT W/ SOUND COMMUNICATIONS – EXTEND AN ADD’L YEAR

($7,657.00) – WIRELESS 9-1-1

M. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: CHILD PLACEMENT AGREEMENT W/ COMPASSION CARE – $18,000.00 – CHILDREN SVS.

N. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT W/ OHPO – COMMISSION

O. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: COMPUTER SUPPORT AGREEMENT W/ EATON COMPUTER – $6,000.00 – ENGINEER

XI. TRAVEL

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS:

A. RES. #61-20-190 – DEAN MILLER – SHERIFF FOJ

B. RES. #62-20-190 – THOMAS SMITH – SHERIFF FOJ

C. RES. #63-20-190 – PAUL PLAUGHER – SHERIFF’S PROFESSIONAL TRAINING

D. RES. #64-20-190 – DAVE WILSON – LANDFILL

XII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHER REPORT AS SUBMITTED BY THE

COUNTY AUDITOR

XIII. MEETINGS

37.5 minute mark    9:30 A.M. – RECORDS COMMISSION & MICROFILM BOARD MEETING

Low audio level as meeting moves to table – Not reviewed

46.5 minute mark   Additional Items (Commission audio improves as commissioners move back to their regular chairs)  Kim Keller's audio level is low.

52.5 minute mark  EXECUTIVE SESSION to discuss the employment of a county employee.

53.25 minute mark  Commissioners need to request an opinion about limits on 2nd amendment. Have County declared a 2nd amendment sanctuary. Send to Marty Votel for opinion on approval.

ADJOURN

 

Who lost the Fort. St. Clair Dog Show?

Fort St. Clair is in Preble County. The Fort St. Clair dog show no longer is.

If you have a business that benefited directly or indirectly by the long running Ft. St. Clair Dog Show being held at the Preble County Fairgrounds, then you might want to review this post.

I heard of this issue a while ago, and while there were parts of the story that defied belief that it would be allowed to happen, it was not a total surprise.  The facts as they are currently known should be public knowledge, and at least some of it part of the County Commission record.  Based on information that I received, I made an open records request for any information pertaining to the loss of the dog show and any Fair Board/ Jim Shute response.  While the commission is clearly copied on the Dog Club letter, the information could not be found. Not entering all correspondence into the public record could be the reason.  Not entering items into the commission record is hardly conducive to any claims of transparency.  The amount of business lost for this debacle is staggering when compared to what it would have cost to address the concerns raised. The Expo rents for $1,000 a day and the issue of lack of bathrooms has been raised many times before. There was a grant to address it but the money was used dressing up the grounds and for new roofs. Bathrooms at the grandstands were upgraded but that did not address the regular concern raised about the Expo building.  One commissioner even suggested that if people could not get into Brunner that they could go behind a truck.  Commissioner Robertson supported using the grant money to address the Expo bathroom issue, as it was originally intended.

The public might want to ask where the Preble County CVB and Preble County Development Partnership are regarding follow-up with events already being held in Preble County vs. chasing things that can’t be “quantified”.  Keeping events already here happy, with follow-up of what can be done better, should be a priority over spending money with no way of quantifying a return. They can bet their rear ends that Montgomery County can quantify this and will.

Read the correspondence below. Watch the videos for background. The Expo issue goes back at least a decade and I’ve included post links for background.  The Dog Show was even mentioned in a February 3, 2010 post.

Ag Society  response:

Alright, if you have got this far you may be wondering why someone from Preble County couldn’t pick up a phone and invite Larkin Vonalt and representatives from the Fort St. Clair dog show in and try and get a long running event back.  

Keep wondering.

Here is some background.

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The year Dave Wesler was up for re-election against challenger Rodney Creech, Dave obtained a large grant to address the lack of bathrooms at the Expo and ongoing electrical issues at the Fairgrounds. The wording was loose enough that other issues could also be addressed, as at the time no one had any cost estimates. Dave lost, Rodney pushed for another direction – paint, steel roofs and cosmetics to make the fairgrounds look better. This did not address the long running issue of lack of bathrooms at the Expo.

If you want to know more, these are the videos and posts that I have from the time.

June 10, 2015

Here is a video with Mary Bullen and myself addressing issues surrounding the grant, Expo and more on the topic at the time.

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This is a link to my post that day:

http://www.preble411.com/preble-county-commission-should-use-grant-money-for-electrical-improvements-restrooms-at-expo

May 22, 2015

Here is a link to another post and video on the topic.

http://www.preble411.com/fairgrounds-improvement-grant

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This last link shows that the Dog Show had voiced concerns 10 years ago with a dirt floor that led to concrete. My point is that there should have been annual follow-ups after those first concerns: How we doing and what can we do to make things better?

February 1, 2010

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About the poor audio issue… Commissioner Robertson tried.

The Preble County Commission meetings are recorded to audio and available upon request for 15 cents per cd.  Anyone that listens to the audio or looks at an agenda will hear or read:

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE —date— REGULAR SESSION MEETING

As the “official minutes” the audio should be of better quality.

Commissioner Denise Robertson tried years ago to drag the other two commissioners into a more updated transparency of county commission meetings.  The stonewalling by the other two commissioners past and present has continued for the six and a half years since.

May 6, 2013.

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1 hr.  7.6 Minute mark    Commissioner Denise Robertson – Real quick, would this be a good time to talk about a video? Installing a camera with our audio? … also mentions putting that and audio online.

There has been an issue with poor audio levels for years. When this transparency project was started the audio was recorded and made available to the public in what is known as an .a01 file format. Some years ago I brought the poor volume level issue up and the assistant clerk informed me there were two audio channels. There was one channel for the mics on the commission desk and the other for those at the conference table and podium. At that time I requested the conference and podium. This led to complaints about not being able to regularly hear all the commissioners – Chris Day’s volume was often an issue and it was believed at times he must have sat back further from his mic.  That is not the problem now as all commissioner audio recorded while they are at their commission seats is fine.

At some point, I was asked by a friend how they could get a cd of their own (M.B.). That person requested one but could not listen to the .a01 format. I told Connie about it and the commission audio was eventually switched to the more common .mp3 format.  This unfortunately became a step back for audio quality.

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Board of Elections requests $20,000 for legal action against County Commission

This is the audio for the December 16, 2019, Preble County Commission meeting.  I was told there will be no audio for the December 18 meeting due to an equipment issue with the recording.

I recommend listening to the actual audio files provided and draw your own conclusions. 

Of concern this meeting is the growing expense of what has turned into a legal case with the Board of Elections.

Preble County Commissioners

December 16, 2019

Three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

Begins just after 1 minute mark on cd.

File one of two files on cd.

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

Jerry??? Poor audio from Jerry. At podium?   Regards Ohio EPA

I recommend listening to this audio file as someone else may be able to understand more of it.

Mentions having real concerns with a letter signed by commissioners.

6 minute mark   Jerry mentions being given a timeline from the Ohio EPA.

Commissioners challenge the asseration that they did not respond to EPA.

8.5 minute mark   Jerry feels the trailer park should be shut down…."health department is worthless".

Problem goes back to 2009.

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 2, 2019 REGULAR SESSION MEETING.

16.46 minutes

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 9, 2019 REGULAR SESSION MEETING.

File 2

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

Listen the audio for full mention of all expenses, resolutions, hires and more.

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) COURT ENTRIES FROM JUDGE OVERMYER

RE: COLLECTION OF COURT COSTS – SPECIAL FUNDS PROBATE MAGISTRATE FEES FOR THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER & NOVEMBER, 2019

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #675-19-190

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #676-19-190

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – WIA FUND ($4,800.00); JFS ($1,082.50; $1,709.25)

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #677-19-190

RE: AUTH. EXPENDITURE – $19,897.00 – PURCHASE, INSTALLATION & PROGRAMMING OF ADD’L CONTROL STATION FOR THE JAIL MAIN CONTROL AT THE PREBLE CO. JAIL – SHERIFF

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #678-19-190

RE: AUTH. EXPENDITURE – $2,768.00 – PURCHASE & INSTALLATION OF A LIFTGATE FOR THE DODGE RAM TRUCK – BLDG. MAINTENANCE

VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #679-19-190

RE: MODIFICATION OF THE 2019 HOLIDAY SCHEDULE

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE SHERIFF

RE: NEW HIRE OF LORI MCCARTY – FULL-TIME CORRECTIONS OFFICER – SHERIFF

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF A COURT SUMMONS FROM THE PREBLE CO. COMMON PLEAS CT.

RE: CASE NO. 19CV031854 – PREBLE CO. BOARD OF ELECTIONS VS. RODNEY CREECH, OFFICE OF PREBLE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS – (All three commissioners)

23.75 minute mark    Commissioner Day would like to note that they (Board of Elections) is requesting $20,000 for court fees.

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF (3) LETTERS FROM THE ENGINEER

RE: RESIGNATION OF DAVID JONES; NEW HIRE OF WILLIAM RITTER & PARKER WILKEN – HSW III – ENGINEER

IX. APPOINTMENTS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #680-19-190

RE: APPOINTMENT OF KYLE DOWDEN TO THE PREBLE CO. MHRB

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #681-19-190

RE: APPOINTMENT OF IAN CROSS TO THE PREBLE CO. MHRB

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X. TRAVEL

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS:

A. RES. #682-19-190 – RODNEY CREECH, CHRIS DAY & DENISE ROBERTSON – COMMISSION

XI. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHER REPORT AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

27.25 minute mark  Jerry back in chamber about proposed sewer district 6. Issue with Executive sessions.

32 minute mark on cd

13.51  minutes

File 3

Extended background noise.  

Audio quality drops off as meeting moves to table.

9:30 A.M. – INVESTMENT BOARD MEETING

36 1/2 minute mark     Meeting begins.

End 41 minute mark on cd

13.06 minutes

File 4

Executive Session to discuss possible pending litIgation with Commission attorney.

EXIT

42.5 minute mark   The lobby is full of voting machines.

Additional items.

Landfill additional expense from weather (liner?).

44 minute mark    Letter from Becky Sorrell.

Discussion on topic of letter.

51.5 minute mark   Discussion on therapy dog and insurance cost.

54.4 minute mark   Kim requests Executive Session to discuss compensation of an employee.

End 54.6 minute mark on cd

15.3  minutes

File 5

FILE 2 ON AUDIO CD

EXIT Executive Session – no action taken.

2.5 minute mark   10:00 A.M. – JUVENILE CT. – THERAPY REQUEST

Audio quality drops off  as meeting moves to table.

Not reviewed but audio made available to public.

29.18  minutes

File 6

Commissioner Robertson requests the creation of a timeline regarding Board of Elections.

Commissioners Creech & Day agree.

Commissioner Creech – Original issue was ADA

Commissioner Robertson – it started with wanting old Art Center building.

31.25 minute mark   Kim – Generally we give a yearly payment to the GIS department.

Listen to the audio.   

Talk about it next year.

34 minute mark   Discussion on Radon in Micro film and basement.

37.5 minute mark    Money in from the Warren County Port Authority. Neaton & Henny Penny. A little over $20,000.

CertifIcate of Title discussion. Commissioner Creech mentions seeing the Sheriff, Steve Simmons and Chris Washington over at 1808.  

…extend into 2020….??

43.75 minute mark   Executive Session – poor audio

EXIT no action taken on compensation of county employee.

44.5 minute mark   Rodney was contacted by Vicky at the Art Center. They have someone interested in purchasing the building.  The person that wants to buy it also contacted Rodney. He has also been calling Denise.  

45 minute mark    Rodney on putting $39,000 back in the Sheriff's budget. Additional employee…was not on B1?

Rodney claims the commission cut $39,000 from Sheriff budget without asking them. "We have to pick the phone up."  Commissioners Day, Commissioner Robertson and Kim take issue with Rodney blaming the Commission office for Sheriff Department's not including new deputy. Listen to the audio and draw your own conclussion as this gets somewhat heated.     

Commissioner Day – admit they made a mistake and move on….  I'm not throwing our staff under the bus.

ADJOURN

27.29  minutes