This meeting and the landfill leachate vote held will have implications for Preble County over the next 20 years. In a 2 – 1 vote the Preble County Commissioners went with a committee recommendation that will send Preble County Landfill leachate to Lakengren for treatment. Commissioners Day and Stonecash voted for the motion and Commissioner Wesler voted against the proposal. There were fine reasons given by Junior Gunter and Kelly Moran in support for the Camden route. There were fine reasons given by Commissioner Wesler in support of the Camden route. Other than the committee recommendation it is my opinion that no reasons favorable to the future economic development of the county were given in support of Lakengren.  The Citizens of Preble County should all have to listen to the one hour plus final exchange before the vote was held.

I find myself in complete agreement with Commissioner Wesler, the Camden Council members (Junior Gunter and Kelly Doran) and Gasper Township Trustee Eric White on this issue.

Preble County, Ohio, County Commissioners

December 28, 2009

Meeting audio and review

File 1

Opening

3.02 minutes – 713KB

File 2

Public Comments

Eric White – Gasper Township Trustee

Good chance for development at Camden. Industrial Development on possibly 80 acres.

Paint Creek issue not resolved for over a year after being brought to Preble County Commission attention back in 2008. Ohio Revised code puts the responsibility on County.

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6.53 minutes – 1.57MB

File 3

Junior Gunter – Camden Village Council

Pleased to see Commission working with Dayton Development Coalition for I-70 and Rt. 127 development. To him working that long and hard and then bypassing Camden was a slap in the face. How can you work on development there and then leave one of our small villages out? I also read on preblecounty.com that you thought Camden was a place for growth.  To me, if you work that hard with Dayton Development Coalition then we have the prime chance to do it locally here to then if we get left out that don't seem right.

This guy is new to the process but doing his best for his village.

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2.31 minutes – 591 KB

File 4

Kelly Doran – Camden Village Council

Truly disappointed, more so with the way Camden has been treated in this whole process. Trouble getting before the County Commission to speak and present. Bad impression of this place. On Chris Day's limited input. FARCE to take it in another direction. County has spent $2.6 – $3 million on treating county landfill leachate since 1997. This guy is well informed and rightly upset. Very good points.   $700 a day being lost on this issue. Appalled at back hand that Camden has got on issue.  Issue with Chris Day's limited input and knowledge.    Issue with Camden not even being listened to. Lakengren official knew Camden numbers. (Not fair).  Issue with scoring. Brings up gravity feed line investment ($250,000) from Camden. No investment from Lakengren.  Lakengren zero weight on economic development. Kelly Doran adds color and fills in areas of this issue that were previously lacking as to what was happening and how on the Camden side.

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17.08 minutes – 3.92MB

File 5

9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATES)

David asks about when they will be talking about the leachate. He is told "today".

31 MIN Mindy – Cash fund balance as of December 23 – $1,457,138.86.  Revenues down about $74,000 off of estimate. Estimated expenses down $148,000 less than anticipated. Loss of 8.5% revenues from 2008, expenses cut over 17%.

End 39.75 minute mark on cd

10.21 minutes – 2.37 MB

File 6

41 MIN   Keith ??? from Camden in chambers (Miami U student). Conversation with Bob Stonecash.  

44 MIN  

VII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #673-09-142

RE: HONORING THE MEMORY OF GALEN HUNDLEY

VIII. BID RECOMMENDATIONS/ AWARDS

A. NOTE RECIEPT OF A BID RECOMMENDATION AND FURTHER CONSIDER

AWARDING THE BID AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: TWO (2) 2010 SINGLE AXLE CHASSIS

IX. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: PHONE & DSL SERVICE, EQUIPMENT & SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT

W/ CENTURYLINK (EMBARQ) – $11,335.54 – ENGINEER

47 MIN   Bob – question on if it was bid

50 .5 MIN  United Health Care

54. 5 MIN  Bob on doing due diligence with regard to budget cuts early last year.

57.5 MIN   Dave on Bob and Chris coming in January and making the tough decisions that needed to be made.

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18.15 minutes – 4.17 MB

File 7

10:00 A.M. – JFS & CHILDREN SVS. MONTHLY MEETING

Becky Sorrell

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59  MIN    On unemployment and mass lay-offs across the state. Unemployment higher in county than National average. No number given.  

1 hr. 7.5 MIN  Contracting with Mary Ditmer again.  

End 1 hr. 22.4 minute mark on cd  

24.25 minutes – 5.58 MB

File 8

1 hr. 22.5 MIN  Question on Leachate by Junior and growth for the county.

1 hr. 24.5 MIN   Kelly Doran?? on Camden's numbers being released early unfairly. Not fair  Camden – Never given a chance to get their numbers lower.

1 hr. 28.75 MIN   Dave on his meeting earlier with Steve Simmons and Kyle. OWPC loan for laying down pipe. Does not like scoring.   Has problem with the capacity issue. Disappointed that Economic Development was not given more weight and benefited the county.

1 hr. 36.3 MIN  Chris on his reasons. Chris, you were elected to do what is best and you are penalizing someone (Camden) for not doing your job for you. This is a failure of leadership. Your reasons are total BS.

1 hr. 41.5 MIN  Dave on OWPC loans having to be used in 2009 or 2010.  Long term benefit vs. short term. Still does not like the scale. Favors entering negotiations with Camden. Right decision.

1 hr. 44.5 MIN   Bob – price was the original reason. Committee made up of Chris Day, Steve Simmons, Tom Barnes, Kyle and Katie Worthington, knowledgeable.

1 hr. 47.5 MIN  Dave on not knowing scoring system until late in the game.

1 hr. 48 MIN   Chris on his views. (He would not let Kelly Doran ask questions)

1 hr. 49.5 MIN Dave on Camden being penalized for thinking economic development in their proposal.

1 hr. 50.5 MIN  Dave – Compactor story. Looked at long term for benefit of story.

Chris – Disagreement with David. The boy is not getting it.

Dave – lack of possibility of economic development with Lakengren choice

Kelly – on Camden was paying for 8 inch feed and that this has been skewed.

1 hr. 54.5 MIN Junior – on comparisons with Exit 10 and looking at long haul, same thing with Camden. Good point   Same issue.

1 hr. 56 MIN  Bob – on committee and scoring system being fair. Mentions a timeline.

1 hr. 57.5 MIN Dave asks about the timeline. Connie had not seen it and Dave had not either.

Bob – he has it for some time.

1 hr. 59 MIN Chris – it does not matter. Dave knew how many meetings

1 hr. 59.5 MIN  Kelly – on being stone walled.

2 hr. .5 MIN   Chris – taking exception to Kelly's comments.

2 hr. 2 MIN   Bob on friendships not entering into his decisions and other issues. Committee being knowledgeable. No favoritism on where it goes.

2 hr. 6 MIN Economic development is what we all want in Preble County. No one should feel they were not properly listened to.

2 hr. 7 MIN  Kelly Doran – Committee was formed prior to that as well. Chris only showed up once – 60 minutes.  (Evidently not a good meeting).  Meetings somewhat pointed. Belief was everyone wanted to go to Camden. On craziness of Chris's comment about it all being speculation on economic development in Camden. No option at Lakengren.

2 hr. 10 MIN apparently another committee with Steve Simmons, Tom Barnes, sometimes Katie Worthington and Camden officials was set up in June of 2009?

2 hr. 11 MIN  Kelly – brings up Chris Day being part of setting up scoring system and then objectively voting on the outcome Good Point  You should not be voting on something you had a hand in creating. Camden has a chance to create real economic development. Does not like the smell test.  Agreed   

2 hr. 13 MIN  Kelly – Steve had been told they would start hauling the leachate immediately. Did not do it because of contract to haul it to Cincinnati for 8.5 cents a gallon.  Cost the county at least  $250,000 on Chris & Bob's watch.

2 hr. 14.5 MIN  Chris – need to move forward.

Kelly – we are talking $17,000 difference a year. On spending everyone else’s money but when it comes to spending your own.  Rod Good has had inquiries, railroad regular interest. Chris voting on scoring of system he helped creates.

2 hr. 17 MIN  Chris – disagrees.

2 hr. 17.5 MIN  Kelly – would like to know why Camden never got an answer back on their proposal.

Chris – we were going out for RFP's .

Kelly – it was submitted before RFP's. Camden was never notified that negotiations had ceased.

Chris – he did not know that he was at a negotiating meeting.

Have to listen to this to get the tenor of this discussion

2 hr. 19 MIN   Bob comments (some what hard to hear)

2 hr. 20 MIN    Chris – Gentlemen (Dave & Bob) what do we want to do with this? Lists options.

Dave – enter negotiations with Camden

Bob – that's been done

Dave – make motion to cease with Lakengren and enter with Camden

Bob – not responsible thing

Motion dies for lack of second.

2 hr. 23.5 MIN   Bob – on process.  Makes motion to move on with Lakengren

Chris Day seconds the motion.

Dave – sighs.

Chris Day on process.

Bob – on need for Rod Good to share his information.

Motion passes  2 – 1 (Dave against)

End 2 hr. 32.25 minute mark on cd

1 hr. 9.55 minutes – 16 MB

Adjourn