File 10A

 

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

January 25, 2010

Meeting audio and review

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Opening

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V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & APPROVAL OF

THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 20TH REGULAR

SESSION MEETING

VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE

COUNTY AUDITOR

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #75-10-143

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #80-10-143

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #81-10-143

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #83-10-143

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #84-10-143

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $3,171.09 FOR PURCHASE OF CERTIFIED MAILERS – CLERK OF

COURTS

F. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #85-10-143

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – JFS

IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION CLERK

RE: 2010 INVENTORIES RECEIVED

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #82-10-143

RE: DESIGNATING CAP OF GREATER DAYTON TO FILE PROJECT PROPOSALS WITH

ODOT & TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH ODOT UPON PROJECT APPROVAL

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A INTERNAL JOB POSTING AD

RE: WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR

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9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE)

Cash Balance for General Fund as January 22, 2010 – $1,230,530.29

  $1,070,095 after expenses as of January 22, 2010

Auditor had estimated  $1,142,000 for the month of January.  Off about $100,000

Sales tax better than expected.

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9:30 A.M. – KENT HAMILTON (SUPPORT & WEB FILTER PROPOSALS)

QUICK REVIEW – NO TIMELINE PROVIDED

Monitor all hardware on network but not data.

$89 an hour for service

Responsive hours under the Silver Care package $66.50. Purchase 2 hours a month that can be carried over if not needed. They roll over as long under contract.  Landfill had 8 or 9 hours banked and then needed 6 or 7 hours of work that was already covered.

Court House has three servers.

One time set-up fee. $350

Web filter to filter out sites from employee browsing. Apparently there is some concern in some departments on the time spent by employees on certain site.  $50 extra month for moderating filter. Filter can be purchased without moderating option. Would handle the whole courthouse.

Currently using a Barracuda system for email.

Recommended transferring Kim & Debbie's computers to Building and Zoning which are very old. Use an old notebook into Maintenance.

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1 hr 15 minute mark    Connie advises commissioners to review contract next on agenda. (LEACHATE TREATMENT AGREEMENT W/ LAKENGREN WATER AUTHORITY – $50,000.00 – LANDFILL)

1 hr 21 minute mark  

X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: LEACHATE TREATMENT AGREEMENT W/ LAKENGREN WATER AUTHORITY – $50,000.00 – LANDFILL

Commissioner Chris Day motions to accept Commissioner Stonecash seconds.

1 hr 22 minute mark   Motion passes 2 – 1, Commissioner David Wesler against

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: ANNUAL REPORT PREPARATION AGREEMENT W/ MALCOLM PIRNIE, INC. –

$10,000.00 – LANDFILL

1 hr.  24.25  minute mark  Commissioner Stonecash comment that it is 10:30

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C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT TO VEHICLE ALIGNMENT AGREEMENT W/ TRACY GREEN – EXTEND

AGREEMENT (1) YEAR – $1,500.00 – ENGINEER

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN ADDENDUM

RE: ADDENDUM TO FINGERPRINTING EQUIP. SERVICE AGREEMENT W/ IDENTIX, INC. –

$6,042.00 – SHERIFF

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: MICROFILM SERVICES & STORAGE AGREEMENT W/ MONTGOMERY CO.

MICROFILMING BOARD – $4,000.00 – MICROFILM

PREBLE COUNTY COMMISSION AGENDA

JANUARY 25, 2010

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XI. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #76-10-143 – SANDY EMRICK – 911 FUND  $221

B. RES. #77-10-143 – JENNIE KALTENBACK, REGINA HAPNER, JULIE MORRIS & CAROL

WENTLENDER – JFS  

C. RES. #78-10-143 – TRISHA STROZIER – JFS $10

D. RES. #79-10-143 – STEVE SIMMONS, KYLE CROSS, KEVIN NELSON, JIM RAY, JIM WOOTEN

& DALE NISIUS – ENGINEER – Feb 22 – 23     $352

1 hr.  31 minute mark    Commissioner Wesler asks Steve Simmons what the appeal was for- individual – fired somebody and they appealed.

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10:30 A.M. – JIM LEFTWICH, DAYTON DEVELOPMENT COALTION, AND KLEINGERS & ASSOCIATES (GOOSE CREEK CROSSING UPDATE)

1 hr.  32.5 minute mark  Waitng on arrival of Jim Leftwich

Steve Simmons, Sean Maggard, Jay, Dave Wright from Kleingers in room.

1 hr.  35.5 minute mark    Chris Day on reasons for meeting.

1 hr.  37 minute mark   Dave Wright on Goose Creek site. Commercial & retail at front – the major intersection. Research Park, mentions past Miami interest. Flex office space.

1 hr.  39 minute mark   Not sure about the water supply for manufacturing. See attached EPA report of January 15, 2010.

1 hr.  41.5 minute mark  Chris Day mention of 500 gallon down rating right now but who is to say.

1 hr.  42.5 minute mark  Traffic pattern study. ITE big box vs light manufacturing

1 hr.  39 minute mark  

1 hr.  45 minute mark  Re-Zoning comments. Two fast food restaurants, two sit down restaurants, a bank, a 50,000 square foot retail strip center and one or two hotels.

This allows the manufacturers of Tadalafil to keep their prices of their medicines affordable to expand their reach and Check Prices ordine cialis on line share the profit with the users.
1 hr.  46 minute mark  Jim Leftwich – Question on how far the site is from the Stateline. Real opportunity is distribution.

1 hr.  48 minute mark  Mention of something like Home Depot – Kohls – type development.

1 hr.  49 minute mark  Have to get with site owner and how much land to buy.

1 hr.  50.5 minute mark  Chris Day on marketing question to Jim Leftwich.

1 hr.  51 minute mark  Bob Stonecash on possible tie in to Wright Pat – Leftwhich does not see it.

1 hr.  52 minute mark  Steve Simmons asks funding question

1 hr.  53 minute mark  mention of local match. Federal match.

1 hr.  57 minute mark  mention of purchase agreement with property owner and putting a TIF over the entire area. CRA (community redevelopment agency).

1 hr.  58.5 minute mark  mention of holding off on marketing until contract with property owner.

1 hr.  59.5 minute mark  Chris Day on getting representatives and press in for big kick off at some point.

2 hr.   minute mark  Steve Simmons on site previously being ranked number one but not being funded. JRS

2 hr.  2 minute mark  Options on developing out.

2 hr.  3 minute mark  Dave Wesler mentions that land owner is a majority landowner in the northwest quadrant also.

Question by Jim Leftwich??? on if "you guys been working him over" followed by laughter.

2 hr.  4 minute mark  working on agreement with landowner.

2 hr.  5 minute mark  mention of truck traffic being a problem. Steve Simmons mentions that the Pilot is the 3rd busiest fuel station in the state. Intersection improvement needed.  Katie Worthington also in room.

2 hr. 6.5 minute mark  Commissioner Wesler on previous Miami MOU.

2 hr.  7 minute mark  Kleingers had asked Miami President at a meeting about it and he was unaware of MOU but provided a couple names.

2 hr.  10 minute mark  Dave Wesler on next EDA grant  

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AFTER MEETING DISCUSSION

2 hr.  13 minute mark  Discussion on name and name change. Goose Creek Commerce Center or something else.

2 hr.  15.5 minute mark  Don't want to be changing it after big splash with media. Possible "Preble Commerce Center", "I-70 something"

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3:30 P.M. – BREWSTER RHOADS, GOVERNOR’S REGIONAL DIRECTOR & KEVIN CARVER, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEV. DIRECTOR (GOOSE CREEK CROSSING PROJECT)

2 hr.  21.5 minute mark   Meeting starts, Bob Stonecash turns it over to Chris Day.

2 hr.  21.5 minute mark   Chris Day stressing input of people in room. Just the opposite of the approach taken with Gasper Township Trustees over the leachate issue.

2 hr.  23.5 minute mark   Chris Day turns meeting over to Jay & David from Kleingers.

Research office park, another mention of Miami University interest. Question from Rhoads??  on how interested Miami is-was – continues to be.  Kleingers had just tried contacting them last week.

2 hr.  26.5 minute mark   Rhodes – question on market use for area.

Kleingers response is that currently big bulk industrial distribution for most of site. Commercial & retail at Orphans Rd. interchange. Market will dictate what all this becomes. Mentions PUD (Planned Unit Development) and some developers being scared off.

2 hr.  29 minute mark       TIF – shovel ready.    Premier commerce center.  County owned industrial park.

2 hr.  31 minute mark    Rhoades – How much could you save a developer with the county controlling the land deal, compared to the privately owned?

Kleingers – "Ahh. We don't have our land bases figured out yet, for this” Mentions land elsewhere (I-75) being owned by developer as going at $80,000 – $100,000 an acre. Mentions $10,000 – $20,000 an acre.

Rhoades or Carver – asks if that includes infrastructure costs.

2 hr.  32 minute mark   Caterpillar deal may be instructive or an indication of the state of the economy. Clayton ended up giving the land to Caterpillar for free. It was worth that much to them because Clayton is a city and has an income tax. After running numbers on the income stream from the tax they made the judgment as a government that was worth more to them in the long term. There was a $1.2 million cost for the first phase of the infrastructure cost and Caterpillar is asking for another $900,000 for an adjacent road way. "When you're running the numbers I think you have to be considerate of the long term gain into the community is. How you offset those upfront costs. The reason I ask you about land use is we are starting to see a lot of large logistics and distribution plays along I-70 in particular, much more so than I-75."  Cost of land mentioned.

2 hr.  33minute mark   Mentions prospects inquiries, one put on the back burner, another feeler out now. Challenges to county are figuring short term pain in cost vs. long term gain while ramping this thing up.

2 hr.  34.5 minute mark   One of the first questions almost every site selector asks regards work force development and skill sets of those workers. How far people are willing to commute. If they are only $15 an hour jobs then people won't want to travel 60 miles as gas prices are going to go back up.

2 hr.  37 minute mark   Sinclair will only get you so far.

Kleingers mentions talking to engineers about getting "Fiber" to the site for the possibility of a call center. Trailer parking because there is much land available.

2 hr.  39 minute mark   Rhoades or Carver asks how far away rail is. They are told 4 or 5 miles.That issue will come up. It won't be a primary issue with every business you will run into, especially in the logistics and distribution field. There will be companies that have to have rail, some might want to have rail and others it will all be over the road stuff. In the universe of logistics and distribution companies, you are going to shave off a piece because you do not have rail.

There is rail at Camden, there is no rail at Exit 10.  The heavy truck traffic was mentioned earlier in the day by the County Engineer as a problem issue. A prospective distribution center dependent solely on trucks will add to that congestion and further impede any other type of development in the area. Furthermore, if you were a company or university looking to build a "Research Park", would you want your highly trained employees negotiating that type a traffic every work day?

Kleingers – "Is there some inherent advantage to having I-70 frontage vs. the rail access?"

Rhoades or Carver It’s all about costs for the company. They run the numbers just like you guys are going to in term of the volume of stuff they ship.  If they have high volumes of things that are logistically able to be put on a train it is a lot cheaper to ship it somewhere than on 86 some odd tractor trailers. It's a function of cost and they need rail.

2 hr.  41 minute mark    Rhoades or Carver  Big industrial users that have to have rail, so they are going to be closer to urban areas where rail access is more readily available. It's just something to keep in the back of your mind, especially for the county as you look out forward in terms of available sites that could potentially be plays that rail is important to those people.

 HEY WHAT ABOUT CAMDEN??? Maybe a boat ride at Lakengren will swing a deal.  lol

2 hr.  42 minute mark   Kleingers – mentions three or four funding streams from county. Conveyance fee, CDBG grants etc.. It looks like we have some local match to work with. Issue 2 for water and sewer.

2 hr.  43 minute mark   Putting in for a JRS in April.

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2 hr.  45 minute mark   Kleingers – pretty good idea of infrastructure costs by March 1.

2 hr.  46 minute mark   Rhoades or Carver – questions on water treatment and out flow

2 hr.  48 minute mark   Why are we looking at 200 acres instead of 300 acres?

2 hr.  49 minute mark   Chris Day on having to start somewhere.

2 hr.  50 minute mark   Kleingers on JRS application

2 hr.  51 minute mark   Rhoades or Carver – JRS application process, lot of competition. Proposal has to be top notch. Process not political. Contact Nate Harbor sp?? A day would have to be spent in Columbus going over last round of applications to see how they were scored.

2 hr.  57 minute mark   Rhoades or Carver asks for help so he can market it. Need for a tight sales pitch. Why you got to come here.  

3 hr.   minute mark  rebranding of name to reflect I-70, possible.  

3 hr.  2 minute mark   Question on how much traffic on I-70. No one knew.

3 hr.  3 minute mark   DHL took advantage of low pay scale but offered a health care plan. They had a lot of part time people.

3 hr.  4 minute mark   Work ethic of farming community, non union.

3 hr.  5 minute mark    Identity question.  

3 hr.  6 minute mark   Rapidly depletion of work force, problem with getting people to drive distance for $15 an hour wage. DHL was busing people in.

3 hr. 8.5 minute mark   Discussion of income tax as funding stream.

3 hr.  9 minute mark   JED discussion

3 hr.  11 minute mark   Just in last 3 years companies have moved or hot located over an income tax. National Trail has a 1.75% income tax. Income taxes a non factor 20 years ago but now all points are being looked at. And moving over 2%.  

3 hr.  13 minute mark   If you put a JED in place it would raise the income tax in that area to 2.75%. Not possible to switch it to Eaton but if it was it would still be 2.5%.

3 hr.  14 minute mark   Property tax can be abated, income tax cannot.

3 hr.  16 minute mark  Can you (county) compete on marketing?

3 hr.  17 minute mark  Developer will try and flip his property before other locally owned property.

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3 hr.  18.5 minute mark  Chris Day asks question if they need to be doing anything or looking at to make site more marketable.

3 hr.  19 minute mark  Narrow focus from shot gun approach.

3 hr.  20.5 minute mark  rural and low cost land.

3 hr.  21.5 minute mark  fear of union shops

3 hr.  22 minute mark  east – west distribution oriented.

3 hr.  23 minute mark  significantly lower traffic count than I-75.  

3 hr.  24 minute mark  Fear of unions in Dayton area, state lost major distributor to Indianapolis last year. Did want Dayton.

3 hr.  25 minute mark  Short ride to DAYTON Airport.

3 hr.  26.5 minute mark  Rhoades or Carver will help in advisory capacity not cannot be seen in competitive system as being too involved.

3 hr.  28. minute mark   Alternative energy market. A green industrial complex will draw more interest. Solar panels on roof, geo thermal. DP&L will buy back electricity.

3 hr. 34  minute mark   discussion on zoning to require green development.

3 hr.  37.5 minute mark   Chris Day question about funding to go green. Third Frontier.

3 hr.  39.5 minute mark   Not for development but for actual companies locating.

3 hr.  42. minute mark   Once development is ready the site needs to be on State website.

3 hr.  46. minute mark   Pretty successful competing with Indiana, very successful against Kentucky.

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3 hr.  48.5. minute mark   Rural industrial park funding.

3 hr.  51  minute mark   Recovery zone bonds   Every county an allocation. Use them or lose them.

3 hr.  53. minute mark   Has to be used by end of year. Anything not used will be pooled by state to use on projects so it is not returned to Washington or another state.

3 hr.  54.25 minute mark    Chris Day – Preble has $1.786 million for the economic development side and facilities’ $2.67 million. County has nothing planned that the funds could be used for.  Something has to be turned in by January 31.

3 hr.  57 minute mark Question on right of way distribution.

4 hr.  3.5 minute mark  Chris Day "we have trouble getting recycling going around here."

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4 hr.  5.5 minute mark Court order for juvenile

Travel requests.

4 hr.  7 minute mark  $975.81 & $874.62   for the commissioners. Motion passed 3 – 0

4 hr.  8.5 minute mark    Bob on need to sit down and plan for other quadrants.

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