Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 22, 2011

Three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

3.3 Minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – This must be from Barbara Willis.

Commissioner Wesler – What's that?

Commissioner Stonecash – This must be from Barbara Willis?

Commissioner Wesler – Yes

Commissioner Stonecash – Just guessing, she didn't put her name on it.

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File 2

FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. # 481-11-152

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – VICTIM WITNESS ($174.00); JFS ($2,500.00; $26,808.00; $41,887.20; $3,225.00); WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ($6,626.39); ENGINEER ($2,771.50)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. # 482-11-152

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS FUNDS

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Landfill – $110,000

$50,000

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) AMENDED CERTIFICATES

RE: PCSD #2 WWTP IMPROVEMENTS ($432,800.00); REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH & WELLNESS ($22,000.00)

D. CONSIDER APPROVEL OF RES. #483-11-152

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – PCSD #2 WWTP IMPROVEMENTS ($432,800.00);

REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH & WELLNESS ($22,000.00)

CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO THE PROSECUTOR

RE: PENDING LITIGATION REQUEST

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM JUVENILE TASC

RE: TERMINATION OF JESSICA KARR & NEW HIRE BRANDI CHRISTENSEN – TASC Starting pay of $8 per hour

BID RECOMMENDATIONS & AWARDS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A BID RECOMMENDATION & CONSIDER AWARDING BID AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: CAMDEN COLLEGE CORNER ROAD BRIDGE REPLACEMENT

TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUEST:

A. RES. #484-11-152 – STEVE SIMMONS, KYLE CROSS, MATT VENABLE – ENGINEER Cost not to exceed $390

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File 3

MINDY ROBBINS – GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE

Cash Balance on August 19, 2011 – $3,296,697.06 – Quite possibly an all time high.

Sales tax up almost $87,000 over estimate.

Charges for services to date have come in at $188,874 just shy of the estimate

LGF $44,362.85 just slightly under 2010 but in range of estimate.

Interest is down.

Salaries, Medicare and PERS $35,000 less than estimate.

Conveyance fee for first 19 days – $4,101

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File 4

Commissioner Stonecash – Talking about the sales tax; on my trip you wouldn't have ever have thought there was a recession. There was a lot of money spent and everywhere that I meant crowds were big. Everywhere the dollars were flowing.  Commissioner Stonecash was on a cruise to Canada last week.

Papers being shuffled and signed

19.5 Minute mark   Cell phone starts vibrating.

Commissioner Wesler – Was this gone over in your meeting?

Connie – A couple months ago he securing quotes.

Commissioner Wesler – mmhhh (affirmative) does Chris I guess I am asking does Chris and the rest of the board the committee know what

Connie – Geotechnical ahh

Commissioner Wesler – Yeah

Connie – Is it called Geotechnical Services?

Commissioner Wesler – …. low proposal appears to be Bowser-Morner at $8,550.  Goose Creek

Commissioner Day goes on to explain.

Commissioner Wesler – ..funds secured from OWDA design grant.

21.5 Minute mark   Connie – That is just an FYI there.

22.75 Minute mark   Connie –  on having looked into the Health Department's request back in 2003 & 04. She found nothing. (Pertains to a possible maintenance agreement)

Commissioner Day – With that being said how do we handle that?

Commissioner Wesler – Once again, as I recall, when we asked them, would they want that property out there to to have their Health Department, for numerous reasons. I just don't think we thought it was our intent to have to maintain a larger facility, a costlier facility than what we were maintaining right across the street here. That housed other agencies inside it. And I believe, I'll go back to saying I recall that we we combined three or four, three others didn't we? ….. Take the time and listen to this audio file for full coverage and understanding.

29.25 Minute mark    Connie mentions something from CCAO that the county would not have to provide a building.

30.5 Minute mark   County spent more than $250,000 when they upgraded the building.

Commissioner Wesler offers view on importance of Health Department but also impact of helping and then having other agencies then coming in and expecting similar treatment.

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Commissioner Wesler – What else Connie?

Connie – Have you thought about the appointments you would like to make to the mitigation team board for EMA?

Commissioner Stonecash – No we

Connie – We have a second request here.

Commissioner Stonecash – That's from one of us?

Connie – It wouldn't be one of you. It would be from a person wanting appointed to that board.

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Commissioner Stonecash – Hmm, I don't ah

Commissioner Day – We didn't do that? We haven't done that?

Connie – No we haven't done that yet.

Commissioner Day – I thought we did.

People come into room and say sorry we are late. Robot group from Eaton High that was chosen to be the recipient of Commissioners Ball funds from by Commissioner Stonecash.

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File 6

Robots R Us presentation

Eaton High School

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File 7

1 hr. 8.2 Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Ok Connie where were we at when they came in?

Connie – The Mitigation Team Member.

Commissioner Wesler – That's right. Ahmmm can I ahh do you guys have any thoughts? Me myself I would probably just make a phone call and ask if they know who has been interested. I would probably call David Anderson or Charlie.

Commissioner Stonecash – and then have them relay that back to us before anything is done.

Commissioner Wesler – Yeah oh yeah.

Writing followed by Commissioner Wesler chuckling.

Commissioner Stonecash – I'm sure we are all on the same track. laughs

Commissioner Wesler – Ahhm ok I'll get back with you. What else?

I am only guessing but having heard this type of thing before it appears that the Commissioners do not want to appoint who ever made the request.

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File 8

Commissioner Wesler – And I know you have worked pretty hard and I appreciate ahh with the Charity Ball. The invitations and sponsorships

Connie – be ready Wednesday.

Commissioner Wesler – Ok. mentions list for sponsorships

1 hr. 10.5 Minute mark   Commissioner Stonecash – I just have one subject that I promised I would bring up earlier in the year and I am going to bring it up today since we have a final settlement. That's raises for employees of the county. It's been what almost three years. They've had increased expenses such as insurance and other cost of living issues. I would like to see what you guys thought in passing on a 2.5% – 3% raise to our employees.

Commissioner Wesler – Are you talking next year? Starting next year? Next year is an election year and both Commissioner Stonecash and Commissioner Day if they choose to would be up for re-election.

Commissioner Stonecash – No I am talking about starting the next week or two.  

Commissioner Wesler – I was probably thinking ahh to review at budget time and see where we are at during the budget. I mean don't get me wrong everybody would like to have a pay increase. A lot of the public and private sector have not had pay increases in the last few years and ahh I understand the moral issue. But

Commissioner Stonecash – Their deserving of it. Our employees are not high paid people. For the most part, there are some make a pretty nice wage. Some make a pretty lousy wage. Budget time is coming pretty quick. I guess I don't have an objection to waiting until then. I would rather see it happen now. The Sheriff's Department or the FOP has been recipients of nice raises for the last three years. We have improved our financial situation, we made the necessary cuts and personnel and expenses so. I think it is appropriate at this time.

Commissioner Wesler – I don't disagree with you on a lot of what you are saying but ahh with the unexpected ahh what may come out of Children's Services this next year. I was just trying to wait latter in the year to see what their projections might be. Cause any shortfalls there you know we have to pick-up.

Commissioner Stonecash – Sure

Commissioner Wesler – Ahhm I guess the only thing as far as some make lousy wages, I think with some make less than others because of the skill set.

Commissioner Stonecash – True

Commissioner Wesler – And what they what their expertise is and what their education is. And ahhmm so I would just say that you know they have a great benefits package. And ahh you know we do have a pay scale and they are brought in under a pay scale. That pay scale is indicative of the other counties our size around the state of Ohio so I think we are right in about the middle of to maybe a little bit less than the middle of some of those pay ranges. So even though lousy I mean it is not lousy compared to many

Commissioner Stonecash – Take whatever terminology you like.

Commissioner Wesler – Yeah.

Commissioner Stonecash – I am not going to get into a discussion on terminology. Less than desirable wage. Whatever you want to call it.

Commissioner Wesler – Could be better.

Commissioner Stonecash – Could be better. I think our people do an excellent job.

Commissioner Wesler – We have always said that.

Commissioner Stonecash – And I haven't ahhh researched what that ahh would cost. Which we need to do. But I still stand by the fact that the employees do and some of the departments have received raises through one form or another. Either by title, job titles or audits to see where such as Chris (Clerk of Courts Chris Day) did with his people. So I don't know how you balance that out as to who gets it and who doesn't. Or whether it is across the board. But I still say it is time we did something.

Commissioner Day – Chris's wife works for the county in Chris Washington's office. As stated, he is up for re-election next year.  I think ahh I don't disagree I think we need to look at what it would cost and the the the cost overall and there is you know several things that play into that so I think we need to start researching that. I don't disagree and I am on the same page I think with the employees. It's been what two and a half years? Since they have had an increase. Ahhm but I think we need to do the research so we know what it is going to cost us.  And and at this point in time I wouldn't have a clue as to what a 1% increase would cost us.

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah we just can't just do it. Bob, these were your words at the start of this conversation "I would like to see what you guys thought in passing on a 2.5% – 3% raise to our employees." Followed by "No I am talking about starting the next week or two."but we need to know what the figure is going to be.

Commissioner Day – So I think we need to start gathering that data.

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah and whether or not we can got a 50% increase. Maybe that is not relevant, I don't know.

Commissioner Wesler – Yeah I don't think anything is going to happen there. I mean if they go an increase before it will be court ordered or whatever to too give equally what we ahh can afford latter. So

Commissioner Day – I think we just need to do some home work here. Get some facts and figures and we can have a discussion on it.

Commissioner Stonecash – Good.

Commissioner Wesler – Ok

Commissioner Stonecash – I am all for that.

1 hr. 17 Minute mark  Commissioner Wesler – So Connie at this present time we are asking you to contact the Payroll Clerk and ask her what a 1%, 2% and 3% may ahh may do.

Connie – Ok.

Commissioner Day – Did you say 10%?

Laughter

Commissioner Day – Is that what you said David?

Commissioner Wesler – That is what I said. 12%.

Commissioner Day – 12%?

Commissioner Wesler – 10% 10 or 12.

Connie – For all the employees in the General Fund? All.

Commissioner Wesler – Well Connie, if we can afford it at the end of the year. If we see that we want to give a one two or three or two and a half or whatever. I would say that if we exclude any of those it will ahh we'll just be court ordered or whatever. And I am trusting you are talking non-union.

Commissioner Stonecash – Right

Commissioner Wesler – Because they have a binding agreement.

Connie – All General Fund,  non-union employees?

Commissioner Day – Correct

Commissioner Stonecash – Right

Commissioner Stonecash – Union employees received raises when the rest of them didn't.

Commissioner Wesler – Is there anything else Bob?

Commissioner Stonecash – No, I think that is all I have on my mind at this time. I would like to take another trip.

Commissioner Day – You come back from vacation and all you can think about is spending money.

Commissioner Stonecash – That's right. I thought I was pretty conservative on vacation.

Commissioner Day – Oh really?

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah

Commissioner Day – Has he seen the VISA bill yet?

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah, I paid it to.

Commissioner Day – Oh really?

Commissioner Stonecash – explains his trip.

ADJOURN

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