It is indeed fitting that File 8 has Commissioner Day covering the topic of bonding and insurance for elected officials.  There is little recourse for citizens to deal with county commissioners whose actions may take a county in a direction counter to their best interests. The phrase “high crimes and misdemeanors” connoted serious offense in English law and was used by the framers of the Constitution at least partially as a description of behavior that while not always criminal under the law was still deserving of removal from office.

With the start of File 13 we as citizens watch the approach of that point. I don't throw that out there without cause, this commission is already the target of a legal case involving development.

Before getting to that point File 12 has a rather unusual 2-1 vote among the three amigos on the hiring of a Director of Land Use Management.  The commissioners voted 2 – 1 to hire Bob Brower for the job, no problem there. It is the line from point A to Point B that had me scratching my head as to what the under-current was in the room. If you have time listen to the interaction.  Bob accepts the job in file 14.

File 13 starts with Commissioner Wesler saying “Ok we are going to talk a little Goose Creek Crossing."  Commissioner Day replies “good” and proceeds to offer the most detailed pro and con explanation offered by a Preble County Commissioner to date on the Goose Creek issue. As posted previously there is not a lot of free money out there and Day covers that and more.  This file was transcribed completely to the best of my ability, read it, listen to it.

As a county we the people were told and sold the idea that the hiring of Shawnda Combs was for the purpose of promoting all of Preble County for economic development. That often stated position has proven popular as a means of support for the action. It is called into question by the statements of Commissioner Day not just once but twice. Having stated that minus Goose Creek there is no reason for or need for her. Now, I know that there are going to be claims that I have quoted him out of context but here are the quotes:

1:“Hey in 2013 at such and such we are going to have facilities up there and we can supply you water and sewer. Quite frankly until we get to that point, she has nothing to market.”

2: “And if we don't move forward basically Shawnda we have no really need for Shawnda at that point because she has got nothing to market there.”

The entire statement that included those comments is transcribed below and the audio is there to be listened to. The point being that we as citizens have repeatedly been told that promotion of the “whole” county was the reason for the raising of the conveyance fee and her hire. This is the first clear and admitted indication that political fraud has been perpetrated on the citizens of Preble County over this issue.  Shawnda has been out around the county visiting elected officials, Chambers and businesses telling them she represents all of their interests but her feet were cut out from under her at this meeting.

 I’ll go out on a limb and say Preble County will not get the Job Ready Site money in this coming and last round of the program. There is less money than previously available and the competition will be that much tougher.

There are multiple reasons given to walk away from this proposed and coming large financial obligation being foisted upon the citizens of Preble County. I’ll refer readers to another quote from this meeting “I asked Shawnda about that a little bit, it's becoming during these times it's less an option for developers because there are plenty of spots out there. They don't need to develop. But if it is location and you get the right person wanting to locate there, we're still going to put dollars into it.”  

A truth worth repeating – “it's becoming during these times it's less an option for developers because there are plenty of spots out there. They don't need to develop.”

It is not the first time though that truth was touched on in Preble County Commission chambers. I refer back to the often mentioned January 25, 2010, Commission meeting with Kevin Carver and Brewster Rhoads:

Here is some more note worthy information from that meeting (the January 25, 2010 meeting audio is available to listen to):

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2 hr.  34.5 minute mark   One of the first questions almost every site selector asks regards work force development and skill sets of those workers. How far people are willing to commute. If they are only $15 an hour jobs then people won’t want to travel 60 miles as gas prices are going to go back up.

2 hr.  37 minute mark   Sinclair will only get you so far.

Kleingers mentions talking to engineers about getting “Fiber” to the site for the possibility of a call center. Trailer parking because there is much land available.

2 hr.  39 minute mark   Rhoads or Carver asks how far away rail is. They are told 4 or 5 miles.That issue will come up. It won’t be a primary issue with every business you will run into, especially in the logistics and distribution field. There will be companies that have to have rail, some
might want to have rail and others it will all be over the road stuff. In the universe of logistics and distribution companies, you are going to shave off a piece because you do not have rail.

3 hr.  9 minute mark   JEDD discussion

3 hr.  11 minute mark   Just in last 3 years companies have moved or not located over an income tax. National Trail has a 1.75% income tax. Income taxes a non factor 20 years ago but now all points are being looked at. And moving over 2%.  

3 hr.  13 minute mark   If you put a JEDD in place it would raise the income tax in that area to 2.75%. Not possible to switch it to Eaton but if it was it would still be 2.5%.

“Starting to see a lot of large logistics and distribution plays along I-70”

There is a link at the top of the page for New Paris Village Council  . Take some time and review the video of the February 7, 2011 meeting and you will hear Shawnda Combs mentioning Preble County for “Logistics and Distribution” and that Indiana can have the business component. Retail sales tax is the life blood of Preble County government, ceding it to Indiana is also worth a question or two.  Scroll the video over to the 15 minute 10 second mark and you will hear this:  “Indiana has an inventory tax, Ohio does not. My goal is to target the industries that Indiana is going after in regards to they can get the business component that can survive and flourish in Indiana just across the border here in Ohio in areas like this we could attract the “Logistics and Distribution” component because we don’t have an inventory tax here in Ohio.”  

If the focus is to be warehousing jobs then the people of Preble County should chime in on their thoughts as to the expense of Goose Creek being worth the cost. I don’t see it and my views are based on the statements put forth on the subject both in Preble County Commission Chambers and in the video provided.

 

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

March 14,  2011

Meeting audio and review

Three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 9TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

End 4.22 minute mark on CD – 1 MB

File 2

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. # 180-11-149

RE: AUTH PAYMENT – ENGINEER ($132.63; $125.18); WORKFORCE DEV. ($423.75; $874.20; $1,267.13); VITAL STATISTICS ($21,918.61); BUREAU OF INSPECTION ($5,315.76); REA ($175.00; $7,560.51; $6,120.00; $2,800.00; $2,500.00; $5,315.76)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #182-11-149

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #183-11-149

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – ENFORCEMENT & EDUCATION FUND

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #185-11-149

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $7,947.90 FOR PURCHASE OF CHEMICALS FOR BROADLEAF SPRAY PROGRAM – ENGINER

9.5 Minute mark      IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO THE HIT FOUNDATION

RE: LETTER OF INTENT TO HIRE AS PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR FY11 CHIP

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF

RE: PAY RATE ADJUSTMENT PER CONTRACT – THERESA GEORGE  $17.14 to $17.17

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A PERSONNEL ACTION

RE: RESIGNATION OF KURT BACHMAN – JOB & FAMILY SVS.

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A PUBLIC OFFICIAL BOND

RE: MINDY ROBBINS, COUNTY AUDITOR

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) COURT ORDERS FROM JUVENILE COURT

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM PROBATE COURT SPECIAL PROJECTS TO JUVENILE COURT MAGISTRATE SPECIAL PROJECTS

12.5 minute mark on cd  

8.1 minutes – 1.87 MB

File 3

MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE)

Cash balance March 1, 2011  $1,895,376.52

17.5 minute mark on cd  

5 minutes – 1.15MB

File 4

F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO PALMER ENERGY COMPANY, INC.

RE: AUTHORIZATION OF ENERGY CONSULTANT SERVICES

G. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD

RE: ZONING CASE #1287 CORRECTION OF PROPERTY LOCATION

H. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: NEW HIRE – DAVID J. PRICE AS HSW III, BRIDGE DEPT. – ENGINEER at $15.46

I. NOTE RECEIPT OF A REPORT FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF

RE: MONTHLY JAIL REPORT – FEBRUARY

Male admissions 71

Female – 19

Average daily count 49

J. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM JUDGE DUES, JUVENILE COURT

RE: NEW HIRE – PENNY MORTON, PART-TIME, TEMPORARY, DEPUTY CLERK – JUVENILE COURT 16 hours per week at $9.55

21 Minute mark  BID RECOMMENDATIONS/AWARD

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF BID RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER & FURTER CONSIDER AWARDING BID AS RECOMMENDED

RE: 2011 PREBLE COUNTY GUARDRAIL PROJECT AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: AGGREGATE AGREEMENT W/ BARRETT PAVING MATERIALS, INC. – $1,000.00 – ENGINEER

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: AGGREGATE AGREEMENT W/ WYSONG STONE CO. – $2,500.00 – ENGINEER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: CRACK SEAL PROJECT AGREEMENT W/ J & A CONSTRUCTION, INC. – $119,521.46 – ENGINEER

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT’

RE: PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD MEMBER SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ ROBERT ASHWORTH $600.00 – RURAL ZONING

23.75 Minute mark    TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS

A. RES. #184-11-149 – TERRY PENDERGRAFT & MELISSA COBB – VETERANS SVS.  Cost not to exceed $86

B. RES. #186-11-149 – ROBIN CAPLINGER, JEAN BROWER & SANDRA GREEN – JOB & FAMLY SVS.  Cost not to exceed $980

C. RES. #187-11-149 – JUDGE ABRUZZO – SPECIAL PROJECTS COURT TRAINING  Cost not to exceed $24

D. RES. #188-11-149 – COMMISSIONERS WESLER, STONECASH & DAY – COMMISSION  Cost not to exceed $50

E. RES. #189-11-149 – MINDY S. ROBBINS – AUDITOR  Cost not to exceed $40

F. RES. #190-11-149 – COMMISSIONER CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION  Cost not to exceed $NO COST TO THE COUNTY

G. RES. #191-11-149 – DEPUTY JOSH WING – SHERIFF FOJ  Cost not to exceed $965

H. RES. #192-11-149 – LESLIE THOMAS – JOB & FAMILY SVS.  Cost not to exceed $10

26.5 minute mark on cd  

9 minutes – 2.06 MB

File 5

ENGINEER’S MONTHLY REPORT

30.5 Minute mark    Meeting starts.

38.5 Minute mark     Chain saw noise from outside

1 hr. 44 minute mark on cd  

17.31 minutes – 17.7 MB

File 6

1 hr. 50 Minute mark    Short OSU Extension and 4H discussion between Bob and Chris.

Back ground noise.

2 hr. minute mark on cd  

16.07 minutes – 3.69 MB

File 7

RECYCLING MONTHLY MEETING

Tish Plaugher

Given 19 school presentations.

2 hr. 8 Minute mark   Discussion on landfill assessment and it more than doubling from last year for some businesses. Don Elkins from Rumpke. Malfunction in software. 119 businesses were assessed wrong when it showed they had pick up every week instead of every two weeks.

2 hr. 19 minute mark on cd  

19 minutes – 4.33 MB

File 8

Commissioner Chris Day on previous day's 175th Anniversary of the founding of West Alexandria.

2 hr. 22 Minute mark    – On Corsa, CCAO and impact of new state budget.

Bond and insurance discussion for elected officials.

2 hr. 27.5 Minute mark   Commissioner Bob Stonecash – Went to a Dayton Development Coalition meeting in Piqua on Friday. Discusses importance of Wright Pat.

RECESS FOR LUNCH

2 hr. 28.5 minute mark on cd  

9.5 minutes – 2.16 MB

File 9

Commissioner Wesler – Ok we are back on it is a little bit after 1:30. Connie, what else do you have?

Connie – I do have grant …. in-car video project. Sheriff's Department cruisers.

2 hr. 31 Minute mark   Letter from Sheriff Mike Simpson. Discussion is about DDTI

Connie – I believe the Auditor has an agreement with company to maintain their website upstairs.  

2 hr. 34.75 Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Sean used to do it before.
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DDTI – would come in and train township and village officials. Make sure data is done correctly – parcels, centerlines and addresses. Listing GIS url on website would give public and businesses full access.

2 hr. 34.75 Minute mark  Commissioner Wesler mentions Montgomery County having a service fee that enables someone to get all that information from home.

Connie – They said it would be great PR.  It would be

2 hr. 41 Minute mark   Commissioner Day – Who was doing this before?

Connie – The disk would come into the Sheriff and he would bring it down to Sean. (Disc from Century Link)

2 hr. 41.9 Minute mark   Commissioner Day – mentions possibly getting GIS committee together on issue.

Commissioner Stonecash – I don't see why.

Connie mentions  ESRI

ESRI would handle flood plains and more GIS training.

2 hr. 50 Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler -… I am not so sure that our former GIS Director couldn't have pursued putting them on the website.  This info could of and should be on a county website.

2 hr. 52 Minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – ….there were two discs that were found that needed to be updated last week.

Commissioner Day – So for a thousand dollars a month they would do the updates?

Commissioner Wesler – Yes

Cost would be shared by Commission and Sheriff's Department through the 911 fund.

$100 a month hosting fee – DDTI.

2 hr. 58.25 Minute mark  Connie – Currently 911 has $137,767 cash.

3 hr. minute mark on cd  

31.33 minutes – 7.22 MB

File 10

Discussion continues.

Commissioner Day – Is this something we need to do ASAP?

Commissioner Wesler – Yes, this portion of it.

Commissioner Day – And that is so the 911 system is kept up to date?

Commissioner Wesler – Exactly.

3 hr. 2 Minute mark  Conference call.

Explanation on what contract covers.

3 hr. 6.25 Minute mark    Anything that is already in your GIS data, that would be available through that GIS download link.

   

3 hr. 10 minute mark on cd  

10 minutes – 2.29 MB

File 11

Discussion continues.

Commissioner Wesler – So we have had that capability all along but it was kept in house.

Commissioner Day – I think that is a discussion, correct me if I am wrong but all this is on Mindy's server?

Connie – Right.

Commissioner Day – So this is a discussion we are going to have to have with Mindy.

3 hr. 11.5  Minute mark   Commissioner Stonecash – We had only one person that knew what was going on and he chose not to share it with anybody. Or we didn't ask him to share it; well we did at the end.

3 hr. 13.25  Minute mark    Conference call with Sheriff on sharing expense.

3 hr. 19.5 minute mark on cd  

9.35 minutes – 2.19 MB

File 12

Connie – they have un-appropriated funds of $170,000

Commissioner Wesler – Hopefully we will hear back from in 30 minutes or so.

3 hr. 20.25  Minute mark  Commissioner Stonecash – I'd like to go into EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

Exit, no action taken.

3 hr. 21.25  Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Ok for the office down the hallway would either Bob or Chris like to make any comments first?

Commissioner Stonecash – Yes, I think we have for the office of the Director of Land Use Management. We have excellent candidates for the job. I believe we have three people that are here that have applied. They have outstanding abilities; I believe that we will end up with an excellent department. I would like to ahh discuss Bob Brower briefly.  Bob is our Building Maintenance Supervisor….. (They choose Bob)…. He is a good Board Member of the Preble County Development Partnership.

Chad Hoke is also a very valued employee of the Engineer's Department…. currently Tax Map.

Makes motion to hire Bob Brower as of the first of April.

Commissioner Wesler – seconds.  explains vote

3 hr. 27  Minute mark    Commissioner Wesler – Chris would you like to chime in on anything here?

Commissioner Day – No

Commissioner Wesler – You don't care to speak?

Connie – offers endorsement of Bob Brower and reasons.

3 hr. 32  Minute mark   EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS COMPENSATION OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

Exit. No action taken.

Commissioner Wesler – Bob's compensation now is $18.20. 90 day probation period. That office has come from almost $250,000 what it used to cost, now it is about down to $147,000. Somebody want to throw out a

Commissioner Stonecash – I'll make a motion that we pay the Director of Land Use Management and some new duties as that office has been assigned a figure of $19.10 an hour for and after 90 days a 5% increase. 90 day probationary period.

Commissioner Wesler – Do I have a second or are you still figuring?

Commissioner Day – I'm looking at something.

Commissioner Wesler – Well Bob made the motion for $19.10 do you ahh

Commissioner Day – I'll second it for discussion.

Commissioner Wesler – Ok do you have additional discussion then?

3 hr. 35  Minute mark   Commissioner Day – Yeah I ahh My ahh I realize that ahhm this for the Director ahhm for that being a new position and a new person going in I would suggest starting out at the $18.45 beginning scale which eventually be up to the 5% which would be $19.37

Commissioner Wesler – Possibly normally I would agree but since but since Bob already possesses a lot of the administrative skills that are needed and good networking techniques that would get him going pretty quickly as long as taking on the Flood Plain Coordinator….. you seconded that so I'll say Connie will you please call the roll?

Connie – Commissioner Day?

Commissioner Stonecash – Yes

Commissioner Day – No

Commissioner Wesler – Yes

Decision to call Bob in and see if he will accept job.

Something about this process seems uncomfortable at least with regard to the demeanor of Commissioner Day.

3 hr. 45 minute mark on cd  

25.30 minutes – 5.83 MB

File 13

3 hr. 45  Minute mark   Commissioner Wesler – Ok we are going to talk a little Goose Creek Crossing.

Commissioner Day – good. The group met Thursday. I guess the biggest thing we need to decide. Shawnda has been marketing Goose Creek as a development site. Quite frankly if we don't try to get that to the point where it is classified as a job ready site nothing is going to happen there. No kidding and that is not going to happen.  I guess was kind of the general consensus of the group. Wouldn't you say Connie?

Connie – mmhh (affirmative)

Commissioner Day – Now, to get to that point we have to have the infrastructure there. Ahh Steve and Shawnda have looked at funding for the roads and that portion of it, the 127 and Orphan Rd. the intersection. There is not a lot of dollars out there right now. Steve actually even brought back that ODOT has told them there will be less dollars. Unless you have a commitment, you have once you get a site ready then there is dollars to if you are bringing jobs. The Governor has pledged to help with that so we've got to get the site ready. We can get the plans done and once we get some commitments then we can go back to the state and try to get funding through the Governor's office or Department of Development, ODOT, what have you.

Commissioner Stonecash – What do you mean by commitments? Somebody wanting to come in?

Commissioner Day – If you get what they're telling Shawnda and Steve said; If you got a commitment from a company saying "Hey I'm ready I'm, if your site is ready and will commit to that site and I'm bringing 200 jobs

Commissioner Stonecash – Ok that is what I thought you were

Commissioner Day – Then you can go to ODOT and thing and then they think that things could happen relatively quickly once you get that commitment but without it you're not going to get a lot of dollars at this point. That still doesn't mean that we, I think that we still need to pursue the JRS grant. Tweak the application ahhh I'm going to set up a meeting with Kleingers and find out you know ahhh get our deals from our closing meeting. Ahh find out what everybody's thought's are to tweak the application to get it ready, get it resubmitted and see if we can't pull those dollars down, from that.

Commissioner Wesler – Well when is the next round of the EDA ahh funding?

Commissioner Day – Ahhm don't know that there has been a date set. The last we heard there was no date set. Steve or Shawnda, either one didn't have a date. I think it's all going to be hinging upon some of these budget and what's coming out of that. I know those are Federal dollars but ahh they got some local ties to those also, obviously. So we will have to look at that one also. The ahh but I think that the general consensus is that we can go ahead and move forward trying to get the site ready so that this can be declared a Job Ready Site and kind of we will have to keep exploring options for the road and the intersection. The other part of that is the ahh water and sewer, which we know we've got, we've got the planning loans which will do the it's $484,390. I'll forward all of this to you guys. I mean you can write it down, I'll put all of this together. Ahh That will be the water and sewer planning. Ahh we need to pull the trigger and get started on the planning portion of this, if we are going to do this, that would turn Frank Leon and his group loose to start the design phase. The ahh other portion of that is we are going to have to be looking real seriously July 9th will be the one year on that land option. We will have a year to go that is another $472,000 I believe. Ahh I'll get the accurate, that's what Katie quoted, now I don't know if that included the down payment or not I don't remember what it was, I got to find out. The option. So between the two of those we are looking at ahh just under a million dollars. With the dollars that we need to say "yay or nay" and move forward.  If we ahhm the the once we commit to moving forward and start with the engineering phase then we can go to TA and Pilot and start talking to them about what their commitments are and thing of that nature. What they would commit to and start evaluating what real dollars we might bring in off of those. But until we commit to moving forward, I don't think we can really talk to them because we got a concept but we haven't committed to any further that our concept. Ahh worst case scenario if we did those two things there we would be looking ahh in about two two and a half years of having to start repaying for the ground and the engineering about $72,000 a year. The commitment we would have to make if we went no further. So that is just part of the equation here. Now, if we in a year from now if we pulled the trigger and about a year we would be ready to start construction bidding, bidding and construction at that point we are looking at about 6.2 (million) ahh total for the water and waste water. Ahh if we would do that we can continue in the interim pursuing the founding sources – grants, loans, things of the nature.  Ahhhh whatever options are out there. But if we pulled the trigger to do that we wouldn't have to make any payments until 2014, 2013 we would have the plants up and running and actually be able to tie customers on, start seeing revenues come in. Hopefully by then we've got something worked up between Pilot, TA and whomever else up there might be interested. You would immediately start seeing benefit from having a plant in place and see some revenues from that. An then there is the other side of that we may see some commitments from somebody if we can get it, if Shawnda can go out and say; Hey in 2013 at such and such we are going to have facilities up there and we can supply you water and sewer. Quite frankly until we get to that point, she has nothing to market. So, I guess the question here is; what additional information do you guys need to say let's move forward with the engineering? And then the second part of that is we need to start looking at what it is going to take to purchase the property. Ahh there's monies in this engineering, we can go back for additional monies for the purchase of property through OWDA, that avenue is there. Then that would all be rolled back into the construction loan and I've got to tweak my numbers, I've got chicken scratchings and I'll put all of that together for us but. We can put ahh we can roll that in, the engineering, the purchase of the property and then that can all be rolled into the construction loan which none of this the repayment plan starts until 2014. Ahhm which at that point in time ahhh and I haven't got the numbers crunched because I don't know what we would be expecting from Pilot or TA or anybody else that may be interested because ahhm they are all interested but until we get to the point of saying let's move forward and can give them some concrete answers, they are not going to set down at the table and say hey ahhm are you serious or aren't you? You know at this point we have talked to them a year ago and they haven't heard anything so. Ahhm I guess, in my mind, just me thinking, you know we made the commitment to get the option on the land, we pretty much made the commitment to move forward. And if we don't move forward basically Shawnda we have no really need for Shawnda at that point because she has got nothing to market there.

Commissioner Wesler – mmhhh (Affirmative)

Commissioner Day – And we need part of the discussion was, we need to see not only get this one ready but look at some of our other options that we've talked about and put those in the pipeline and try to get those job ready. Because one of the things everything that she said every time she talked you know the big boys that are looking for something, want a Job Ready Site that's what they are looking at to start with. Ahh before they are even going to get serious about a commitment. So that is kind of where we are at. Ahh you know we've got the money the money locked in for the water and waste water we can we can some up you know we've got time to work on some of these options but we can get the money to purchase the ground , worst case scenario, if we did all that we'd be lookin at about a $75,000 a year payback on those two things.

Commissioner Wesler – Well I'd like to see it like you said you're going to send it to us I'd like to see it down on your emails and then we can further discuss it maybe next week. But

Commissioner Day – What else or what other information do you need?

Commissioner Stonecash – When are you leaving?

Commissioner Day – Wednesday.

Commissioner Stonecash – So you will be gone

Commissioner Day – I won't be here next Monday. I'll be here Wednesday. I guess is there something else that, a part of this that, I guess me being involved in it is there something that I am not telling you or some information that you are not getting?

Commissioner Wesler – Well other than you know we were hinging heavily on the Job Ready Site Grant last time and ahh just we are talking lots of dollars here so I want make sure the different scenarios. That's why I'd like to see it down on your paper. Ahh by you emailing it to us but I don't think so at the moment. It is just staggering numbers here but I understand what the potential could be. How much has Frank been paid already from let's say Kleingers.

Commissioner Day – That I don't know, that was in that was in the contract with Kleingers, he is a sub with Kleingers, we have not paid him a dime.

Connie – We have not paid him anything.

Commissioner Day – We've got the agreements to execute and move forward and that's we need to make a decision if we are going to move forward. If not we just need to tell him you know; hey this is a no go. And like I said at that point we don't even really need Shawnda.

Commissioner Wesler – Have you ahh talked I mean at some point if I were in your shoes and throwing out these numbers I would maybe talk to the Dayton Development Coalition again and see if they have any other ahh anything that they can bring to the table to help with.

Commissioner Day – Well that's some option I mean, we'll as we move forward we can pursue all of those avenues. The problem is on this is until you say yes we are going to move forward some of these aren't open to you I mean it's kind of like Steve said up there; If you don't have a site that is Job Ready they don't really want to talk to you because it is still speculation.

Commissioner Stonecash – Well I think we've been told there are some companies that would like to locate there.

Commissioner Day – Right.  I mean unfortuantely it is the chicken or the egg game. You know ahhm yeah I can talk to the Dayton Development Coalition, we talked to them before and they said there are funds you know that you might be eligible for but until we make the commitment to say;"We're going to stick a shovel in the ground". Everyone is kind of hesitant.

Commissioner Wesler – Well will you be able to put that in detail for us to look over and have a chance to get that by Wednesday or

Commissioner Day – Yeah I'll get

Commissioner Wesler – Ok

Commissioner Day – I can forward this email from Frank. Ahh it's got timelines and then I'll put my notes on what I have put together so far. And you know the numbers are general, obviouslyy we won't know until it goes to bid what the construction costs would be.

4 hr. Minute mark   Commissioner Day – and the engineering is based primarily off the construction cost. So I just was wondering if there anything that, any information that I am not relaying to you guys that you feel important.

Commissioner Day – I don't think so at this time.

Commissioner Day – And obviously once we get Frank and his staff on board ahhhm they're going to be chasing dollars for us also.

Commissioner Stonecash – We ought to be moving out of this recession before long.

Commissioner Day – And I can tell you that's kind of how these projects worked. You get into the design phase and then the engineers are working for you help you chase the dollars. I mean their the ones going to benefit the most out of it so. Well I would hope that the main priority was making sure Preble County benefited the most out of it.   They'll work on your behalf also.               

Commissioner Stonecash – Yeah is there such a thing as a there'd be a large developer that would come up here and spend some dollars?

Commissioner Day – If we, once we get to make a commitment. I mean you may see somebody come in and say hey I'll take this over, I'll there's always that possibility. I asked Shawnda about that a little bit it's becoming during these times it's less an option for developers because there are plenty of spots out there. They don't need to develop. But if it is location and you get the right person wanting to locate there, we're still going to put dollars into it. And some day pigs may fly but until then I suspect you will have to throw them off the roof to get them airborne. 

Commissioner Wesler – Well when we see it Wednesday we will ahh we will let you know. Is there anything else you can think of Connie?

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Commissioner Wesler – I'd like to comment about we've been looking over this Director down the hallway there for quite a while. Something's have changed since we first started talking about that but we finally came to a consensus this afternoon that starting March 28 you will be the Director of that office. And ahh there is a few other things will ahh you know we also desire for you to be the Flood Plain Coordinator and possibly the Loss Control Coordinator and the BWC representative and we will give you time to get down there, assess what is needed in that office and come back and recommend to us what you would like to ahh how to you know continue take that office further down the road. So are there any questions you have?

Bob Brower – How much time are you thinking the 28 ??? (poor audio) to assess?

Commissioner Wesler – Oh I think we will give you time, we have some things to work out still with the Engineer as far as Tax Map because I guess he has been doing some of the GIS when there is requests. Ahhhm is it to where we the Engineer be flexible enough, if you think Chad needs to take a little bit of training in GIS, whether you need to there is a lot of things we need to talk over with ESRI who is the software people and ahh Connie will bring you up to date maybe tomorrow with ahh DDTI and how we're going to talk about a contract with them. Did I hear Mike called back a little while ago?

Connie – Yeah

Commissioner Wesler – So anyway thank you for coming in but we just thought we would let you know that right now. So

Commissioner Day – I guess the question is and you don't have to give an answer now, maybe you have already made your mind up. Do you want the position? Do you want to think about it?

Bob Brower – Ahh yeah I mean (poor audio) I've always tried to learn more. I saw a situation here where you know I felt —- possible I had a goal set and I feel like this is a step ahh in that direction. So yeah I was definitely interested and — having the opportunity and I appreciate the faith that you guys have —-

Commissioner Wesler – Well we voted ahhm to give you a raise ahhm to $19.10 an hour with a 90 day probation period and that would take you to $20.05. So

Bob Brower – I appreciate it

Commissioner Stonecash –  That ahhm what is ESRI?

Connie – ESRI

Commissioner Stonecash – website is a good way to start learning a little GIS.

Commissioner Wesler – Well we will give you ample time to do that like I said we are going to have to have some discussion with the Engineer and ahh we have not told Chad yet or Cindy down there what's gone on but .

Bob Brower – I appreciate it

Commissioner Wesler – So that is an acceptance I trust?

Bob Brower – Yes, I accept and I look forward to the challenge. Can't wait to get started.

Commissioner Stonecash – I want to tell you, you took a chance coming in here wearing a Kentucky shirt.

4 hr.  7  Minute mark   Calling Sheriff Mike Simpson.

Conference call.

Sheriff agrees to do it with exiting money we have in the fund. Sheriff asks that the Commission go with option number 3.

Allows to work with Villages and Townships.

4 hr.  10  Minute mark  Call ends.

Looking at getting another server for GIS.

ADJOURN

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