80 Mile Fiber Optic Loop Proposed to Commission

Mindy Robbins presented the General Fund Update and as of January 29, 2010 the cash balance was at $1,045,427.21

Randy Bowser gave the ever popular 6 – year ditch reviews. Always a favorite….    No review.

A couple discussions on P 16 and Steven Keifer of ACHIEVE took place.   The most relevant information came from Kevin Turner the Preble County Educational Services Superintendant. He advised the Commissioners that by statute there is a requirement for county involvement and that all County School Superintendants are in favor of participation. Preble County would be part of a four county group that is looking at going after $1.5 million in grants and scholarship money. This topic was previously covered on this website in this post: http://www.citizensforpreblecounty.com/news/?p=879

Commissioner Wesler informed on an inspection he attended at the Preble County Expo Center. The friction between the Pork Festival and Ag Society continues on multiple fronts as to the “reasonable use” of the building. Commissioner Chris Day feels documentation on agreements for use of the building needs to be provided to county commissioners with no delay or events halted without it. At least one instance of documentation being held up can be attributed to the County Prosecutor’s office involvement and delay of forwarding it. Fear of being wide open to liability was mentioned.

An 80 mile fiber optic loop was discussed in a meeting with Matt Appenzeller and others. In attendance were multiple people to discuss the benefits and needs for current and future higher speed broadband. Kevin Turner of the Preble County ESC told about House Bill 407 that may pass at the state level. The bill would permit schools to make up calamity days by having students access online lessons that could to return to school with. Other benefits would allow students at schools unable to offer a wide curriculum to take classes online instead of using brick and mortar buildings. This would also aid some 400 students and families already being home schooled in the county.

Charlie Pennington felt it would be a good economic development tool.

Carrie Steele – Preble County ESC Board President offered her views.

Bob Olding of Fiber Optic Solutions gave the most wide ranging presentation on the issue.

Matt Appenzeller pointed out that the effort is at a standstill unless there is involvement from the county. The county is the only group with the assets available to apply for matching grants. He suggested having one commissioner get involved with the meetings.

Commissioner Day voiced concern that the coverage would not be 100% available to everyone in the county. He also felt that marketing the effort as 100% coverage was a false statement and not fair to people.

The day’s meeting closed with Commissioner Wesler gone and comments that did not look promising for the county wide broadband issue if dependent on county commission involvement.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

February 1, 2010

Meeting audio and review

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & APPROVAL OF

THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 27TH REGULAR

SESSION MEETING

VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE

COUNTY AUDITOR

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #90-10-143

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – VARIOUS DEPTS.

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #91-10-143

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #92-10-143

RE: MORAL OBLIGATION – VARIOUS DEPTS.

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #100-10-143

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $8,500.00 FOR PURCHASE OF CRUSHED GRAVEL – ENGINEER

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File 2

9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE)

15.25 minute mark     Update begins

January 1, 2010 cash balance $1,409,557.73

Sales tax – $331,430

Charges for services – $92,820

LGF – $61,130

Interest – $10,972.93

Cash Balance as of January 29, 2010 – $1,045,427.21

Missed estimate by $97,000

25 minute mark    $4,100 from conveyance fee increase for January.

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13.18 minutes – 3.04 MB

File 3

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #101-10-143

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – MENTAL 169 MEDICAID STIMULUS ($76,642.88)

F. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #102-10-143

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A PERSONNEL ACTION

RE: PROMOTION OF SHEILA ROBKIN TO ELIGIBILITY REFERRAL SPECIALIST 2 – JFS

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A INTERNAL JOB POSTING AD

RE: SANITARY FACILITIES MANAGER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) LETTERS FROM SHERIFF SIMPSON

RE: PAY ADJUSTMENTS FOR RITA MADIGAN & DONNA TERRY AND ASSIGNMENT OF

DEPUTY KEVIN CAPLINGER TO GASPER TWP. DUTY

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: RESIGNATION OF GERALD E. HALL

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A PERSONNEL ACTION BY SIGNING A

LETTER TO THE PAYROLL CLERK

RE: PROBATIONARY RATE ADJUSTMENT FOR REBECCA SORRELL – JFS

F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING (2) PERSONNEL ACTIONS

RE: NOTICES OF RESIGNATION OF GERALD BISHOP & JUDY BISHOP – JFS

X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: EQUITABLE SHARING AGREEMENT & CERTIFICATION W/ DEPT. OF JUSTICE &

DEPT. OF THE TREASURY – SHERIFF

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: PARTNERSHIP FOR SUCCESS SERVICES AGREEMENT W/ OSU EXTENSION,

PREBLE COUNTY – $63,364.95 – FCFC PARTNERSHIP FOR SUCCESS FUND

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: SOFTWARE MAINT. AGREEMENT W/ MAXIMUS, INC. – $2,150.00 – JFS

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING (2) AGREEMENTS

RE: AGGREGATES PURCHASE AGREEMENTS W/ WYSONG STONE CO. & WYSONG

GRAVEL CO. – $5,000.00 EACH – ENGINEER

PREBLE COUNTY COMMISSION AGENDA

FEBRUARY 1, 2010

Page 2 of 2

X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: SECRETARIAL & STENOGRAPHER SVS. AGREEMENT W/ JOAN MOORE – $3,600.00

– RURAL ZONING

F. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: HVAC MAINT. & SERVICE AGREEMENT W/ MECHANICAL SYSTEMS OF DAYTON –

$8,464.00 – SHERIFF

G. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: TIME CLOCK SERVICE AGREEMENT W/SIMPLEXGRINNELL – $187.50 – SHERIFF

H. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: TYPEWRITER MAINT. AGREEMENT W/ CAL-VENT MAINTENANCE SERVICE –

$2,097.00 – COMMISSION ($115.00); AUDITOR ($300.00); PROS. ATTY. ($292.00);

ENGINEER ($310.00); JFS ($788.00); LANDFILL ($73.00); & CSEA ($219.00)

I. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: YARD WASTE REMOVAL SVS. AGREEMENT W/ FRESH AIRE FARMS – $19,350.00 –

RECYCLING

J. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: OFFICE SPACE LEASE AGREEMENT W/ HEALTH DISTRICT – $2,500.00 – PUBLIC

HEALTH EMERGENCY RESPONSE

K. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT

RE: LAW ENFORCEMENT SVS. CONTRACT W/ HEALTH DISTRICT – $5,000.00 – PUBLIC

HEALTH EMERGENCY RESPONSE

L. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT

RE: GIS SERVICES CONTRACT W/ HEALTH DISTRICT – $2,500.00 – PUBLIC HEALTH

EMERGENCY RESPONSE

M. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT

RE: EMA ASSISTANCE SERVICES CONTRACT W/ HEALTH DISTRICT – $2,500.00 –

PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY RESPONSE

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XI. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #93-10-143 – LATISHA PLAUGHER & KELLY KEEHNER – RECYCLING

B. RES. #94-10-143 – CAROL AVERY – JFS

C. RES. #95-10-143 – MISSY HOLBROOK & DANIELLE PIERATT – JFS

D. RES. #96-10-143 – CAROL AVERY – JFS

E. RES. #97-10-143 – NANCY GRASSMAN & TRACY BRADFORD – JFS

F. RES. #98-10-143 – CHARITY LORANZAN – JFS

G. RES. #99-10-143 – TRACY BRADFORD – JFS

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31.33 minutes – 7.22 MB

File 4

P-16 discussion (covered in a previous post)

59.5 minute mark   Dave Wesler on P16 consortium needing letter of support. Group raises funds for a four county area – Raises funds for JFS and School Superintendants.

1 HR. 5 minute mark   Bob – fundraiser, the guy keeps 40% of funds raises.

End 1 hr. 6.8 minute mark on cd  

7.34 minutes – 1.73 MB

File 5

10:00 A.M. – RANDY BOWSER (6-YEAR DITCH REVIEWS – OXER, HESTER & WATTS DITCHES)

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER ADOPTING THE NEW BASE OF

ASSESSMENTS FOR THE OXER #757, HESTER #761 & WATTS #814 DITCHES

AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER & FURTHER SET MARCH

1ST AT 10:00 A.M. AS THE DATE & TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING

End 1 hr. 25 minute mark on cd  

18.18 minutes – 4.18 MB

File 6

1 HR. 26.5 minute mark   Bob – Hello Sean.

1 HR. 27.5 minute mark   Dave Wesler – attended inspection at Expo Center. Pork Festival and Ag Society members also in attendance. Safety inspection and air flow concerns. Several hoops for Ag Society to jump through. David thinks another look needs to be taken at the insurance. Tractor Pull (Central Ohio) has $5 million. Dave has concerns that the Pork Fest may want more. CORSA may think$5million but who decides

1 HR. 30.5 minute mark   Chris Day – Where does it say they have the right…

Dave – it’s going to go back to their saying they built the building.

Chris – from what he has seen they get their two weeks a year and then it goes back to the Ag Society.

Dave – what's reasonable use for the building?

1 HR. 31.5 minute mark   Chris – until they put concrete in that building it was (tractor pull) was reasonable use.

1 HR. 33 minute mark    Chris – We're wide open for liability

1 HR. 34 minute mark    Agreement  held up at Prosecutor's office

Chris Day – My position is that we need to see documentation on agreement and documentation needs to get to commissioners without delay.

End 1 hr. 36.75 minute mark on cd  

11.46 minutes – 2.69 MB

File 7

1 HR. 37 minute mark    **** Executive Session ****- to discuss possible employment of a public employee or official.

No action taken.

John Jones

1 HR. 39 minute mark    Chris Day – "He's got higher expectations in the future"

1 HR. 45 minute mark    Kevin Turner – on P-16 discussion. Counties required. Statutory requirement. If Preble joins it would be a four county group. Looking at going after a $1.5 million in grants and scholarship. County Superintendants are in favor of it.

1 HR. 47 minute mark      It is required by statute…

1 HR. 48 minute mark     Motion to hire John Jones as Waste Water Supervisor

End 1 hr. 49.75 minute mark on cd  

13.07 minutes – 3 MB

File 8

11:00 A.M. – MATT APPENZELLER & OTHERS (BROADBAND SUPPORT FOR PREBLE COUNTY)

1 HR. 50 minute mark    Matt Appenzeller – Head of Preble County Chamber for Connect Ohio.

Impasse with Connect Ohio, County needed to deliver matching assets that are needed for grants. Time window deadline of March 15, for next round of funding.

Also at meeting: Kevin Turner, Debbie Norris from SWOCA, Carrie Steele, Charlie Pennington, Bob Olding from Fiber Optic Solutions and Sean Maggard.

Idea of building a fiber optic loop in Preble County.

1 HR. 52.75 minute mark    Dave -asks question on of this would address coverage of all of Preble County.

Matt – potentially.

1 HR. 53.5 minute mark    Kevin Tuner Preble County Educational Services Superintendant. Implores support of getting broadband throughout county.

1 HR. 55 minute mark     House Bill 407 – (If passes) permits school districts to make up excess calamity days by having students go online and having them get lessons to bring in next school day.

1 HR. 56.5 minute mark    Potential to broaden curriculum in schools that cannot offer some classes like Calculus. Students could go online for access.  Minimal cost to district. Students would not have to sit in brick and mortar buildings.

1 HR. 58 minute mark     Currently about 400 students and families in county being home schooled.

2 HR. 1 minute mark     Debbie Norris from SWOCA (South West Ohio Computer Association). Information technology group that supports schools. They currently use Time Warner Road Runner. Eaton has its own fiber (Progress Book).

Access to online grade books.

2 HR. 3.5 minute mark     Charlie Pennington (CIC) on meeting at Chamber of Commerce with Ralph Doll  sp?? and Gary Duke.  

Economic development tool.

2 HR. 6.25 minute mark     Carrie Steele – Preble County ESC Board President.

Read note from local school Superintendant.

2 HR. 7.5 minute mark     Bob OldingFiber Optic Solutions

21st century infrastructure. His company owns the Butler County fiber optic system.  Everyone around Preble except Darke already has a fiber optic system.

Explains benefits to employers, universities, health care and education.

2 HR. 13 minute mark       Next corridor of development will be between Indy and Columbus. It will happen and there is a need for more bandwidth every year.

2 HR. 16 minute mark     Explains fiber optics and benefits.

2 HR. 18 minute mark     Explains problem of dealing with DP&L and need of county to get involved. Preble County owns right of way to lower $500 a pole inspection fee and $2,500 a pole replacement cost.

2 HR. 20 minute mark     Turn it over once it is built to someone that can operate it. Possibly Preble County Chamber? High speed for last mile would be delivered by microwave. One tower can cover 10 miles, depending on weather and terrain.

2 HR. 23.75 minute mark     Dave asks about percentage of coverage for county.

2 HR. 26.5 minute mark     Duke Energy charges $18 a pole.  

End 2 hr. 28.2 minute mark on cd  

38.18 minutes – 8.76 MB

File 9

2 HR. 28.5 minute mark     

Bob – why doesn't the Chamber of Commerce apply for these grants?

Matt – Chamber does not have the matching assets to apply for these grants. Only the county has the assets with towers and assets.

2 HR. 30 minute mark    Bob Olding- Matching assets can be in-kind.

Fiber Optic loop would be 80 miles in length and there could be spurs off of it in many directions.

Water towers, radio towers to be used.

2 HR. 33.75 minute mark     $1.5 million and $500,000 for spurs.  

2 HR. 35 minute mark     A county has a better chance of grant approval than a single small company.

2 HR. 36.5 minute mark     Chris Dayworry about county being on the hook for $1.5 million – $2 million

2 HR. 28 minute mark     Bob Oldingproblem getting state to recognize fiber as an asset

2 HR. 39.5 minute mark     County Cost discussion. Water treatment, Sinclair, Agra Business, health.

2 HR. 41.5 minute mark     Bob Stonecash wants to know eventual cost to consumer.

2 HR. 44 minute mark     Mention of G-Wireless application

2 HR. 45 minute mark     DP&L in good position to make this happen.

2 HR. 46.5 minute mark     Dave asks question about lowering of broadband bill. Conceivable that some parents still would be able to pay to connect to this even at lower cost.

2 HR. 48 minute mark     Sean Maggardstudy last showed that in a down economy, people were more likely to give up cell phone service and cable TV before internet access.

2 HR. 48.5 minute mark     Matt Appenzeller on need to have a County Commissioner involved with the Connect Ohio initiative currently in progress.

End 2 hr. 53.25 minute mark on cd  

25.12 minutes – 5.76 MB

File 10

2 HR. 53.25 minute mark     Bob Olding on pole rights and wireless service providers competition.

Chris Day on potential to never get the last mile. Some guy at the bottom by a creek may not be able to get it.

How many customers will not want to pay price.

Demand

2 HR. 55 minute mark     Chris Day this is being marketed as 100% coverage and that is a false statement. Not being fair to some people…

2 HR. 57.5 minute mark     Matt Appenzeller on Reid Hospital and broadband and being able to cut emergency room use.

2 HR. 59 minute mark     Giving fiber optic strands for economic development incentives.

Bob – broadband worth exploring

Chris- like to see a plan

Bob – there is no plan, we can't do that.

Chris – yep

**** Chris Day to be gone next week ****

ADJOURN

End 3 hr. 3 minute mark on cd  

9.42 minutes – 2.22 MB


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